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Bikes, Pictures, Stories & more => Chat, Offtopic & Everything Else => Topic started by: Greybeard on 19.10. 2017 18:47
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https://goo.gl/bcBviy
I used to have a rigid frame one of those, in a similar condition. Sold it for £60 plus a running A10 plunger, (that I still have).
Tell me what you think this baby will go for.
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Surely 12,397.50 *smile*
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10,200 GBP
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16253/lot/272/
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10,200 GBP
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16253/lot/272/ (http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16253/lot/272/)
Lovely! Can't believe I let one slip through my fingers.
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I am restoring a rigid framed 1938 4G at the moment (in red).
One of 1,400 made in that year.
A total of approx 15,000 square fours were made (in all versions) between 1931 - 1959.
Richard
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Oh! I didn't notice the Bonhams sale was in 2008. I'm upping my estimate just a little to 10,700 GBP. Trust me, I have little clue of the real value, but it's fun to play the game.
Richard L.
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A total of approx 15,000 square fours were made (in all versions) between 1931 - 1959.
Pretty successful then. I imagine most were hauling sidecars. Early on there were overhead cam engines, 500, 600 & 1000 cc
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This is a 1938 4G (1000cc) in top class nick.
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This is a 1938 4G (1000cc) in top class nick.
*loveit* *dribble*
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The way i read it was the OHC 500 was the early idea, but revised and…released as the 997 whatever OHV ... *dunno*
An ex-work buddy who I haven't seen for a couple of years has a few (7 or 8 ) that I've seen, but think he has maybe 15 or so... not sure which models though.
Did a trip up the coast a few years ago with him and was a pleasure to ride behind
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I owned a 4 piper in 1966 ,sold it for ,I think £25 after I'd replaced head gaskets and got it running but I couldn't get it down the jigger into our backyard and I ran foul of the fuzz so it had to go ,quite like it ,so smooth !
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If it was my next door neighbors bike, I would give him 13,350 pounds for it and push it into my garage. I may be a bit low, but it needs a few hard to find (I imagine) parts.
Lee
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The way i read it was the OHC 500 was the early idea, but revised and…released as the 997 whatever OHV ... *dunno*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Square_Four (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Square_Four)
An ex-work buddy who I haven't seen for a couple of years has a few (7 or 8 ) that I've seen, but think he has maybe 15 or so...
That's just greedy. Tell him your mates on this forum should have a few of them.
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More eye candy; I trust that the forum will be tolerant, given that Ariel Motors was owned by BSA!
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Here is an off the wall question.
What type of treatment was given to hardware back then by companies like Ariel?
I believe early harley used tinning, parkerising, maybe nickle, and certainly plane old paint- I am not sure on some of those.
I dont think Cadmium became huge until WW2. *conf*
Lee
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A lot of comments, but few in the game. GB asked for guesses of the sale price. C'mon.
Richard L.
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15,000 pounds
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... I trust that the forum will be tolerant, given that Ariel Motors was owned by BSA!
Almost anything is OK in 'Off Topic'
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...12k £...
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£12,500 + £5k to get it running properly
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... I trust that the forum will be tolerant, given that Ariel Motors was owned by BSA!
Almost anything is OK in 'Off Topic'
Indeed, and there's the 'members only' board. Free to use, and anytime some discussion in the the tech boards drifts away from original topic, move it over here *smile*
(this section 'saves' the tech board's content, making posts there concentrate on actual topics and, imo, thus giving those boards\topics readability, quality, high level of informational value).
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trust it will be a square deal - BOOM BOOM
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1 h 40 left, a final bid frenzy coming up ?
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perhaps not, stuck on 8 grand with less than an hour to go and two separate bids over over 8 grand retracted a few days ago, someone know something we don't ???
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Sold, but not to me.
If I understand right, the numbers were in question and also a plunger frame might have been wrong for a 38.
I didn't feel comfortable putting that much into something I know so little about.
Lee
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...also a plunger frame might have been wrong for a 38...
The '39 model I owned had a rigid frame. I imagined there may have been an option for plungers.
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This makes the first one look cheap!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1931-Ariel-Square-Four-4F-OHC-Orig-No-Pre-War-Vintage-Ultra-Rare-Girder-Bike/132259972634?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46150%26meid%3Df78bf84fa58549318ce1df2c91da34c5%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D172923044264&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1931-Ariel-Square-Four-4F-OHC-Orig-No-Pre-War-Vintage-Ultra-Rare-Girder-Bike/132259972634?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46150%26meid%3Df78bf84fa58549318ce1df2c91da34c5%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D172923044264&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850)
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If I hadn't bought the A7 and another project recently I would have bought that bike, and for £8100 the buyer got an absolute steal.
Lucky sod!
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Hi Lee and All,
Here is a link to another square 4 project Starting price NTB?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARIEL-SQUARE-FOUR-1000CC-MOTORCYCLE-Barn-find-1937-with-log-book/202478562350?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
John
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WOW! *eek*
I have heard about very pricey antique cars being brought back from that depth of rot, but its not for me.
Thats not the "dry" kind of rust, but the deep tin foil thin metal kind if you know what I mean. That bike has been wet constantly for a long, long time. I know this kind of rust because I have to guard against it in my own shed.
I dont believe there will be a bid on this at that starting price. *sad2*
Lee
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It looks far worse than it is, in my opinion. Had it not been messed-with (tele forks rather than girders, silly hi-level pipes, seat and clocks) I would have been severely tempted.
Someone will buy it and have a nice long-term project.