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Bikes, Pictures, Stories & more => Introductions, Stories, Meetings & Pictures => Topic started by: greybloke on 28.06. 2025 14:09
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Hello fellow BSA heads!
New member here from London. I swapped a RE Continental for a '49 A7 plunger in the mid '70s. It came as a rolling frame and 4 boxes of bits inc new barrels and pistons. Mildly surprised when it sparked up, given my basic understanding of mechanics at the time. A couple of years of brute fun followed (hence the John Cooper Clark nod in subject) but then life intervened, as it does. 50 years on and I'm itching to give it a complete restoration.
This forum has been a brilliant source of info and inspiration. Thank you. I'll let you know how it goes. Early days, I've yet to retrieve it from under that tarp in my folk's garden (see pic). I'm sure it'll be fine. It was built in Birmingham, from iron *smiley4*
all the best
greybloke
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Welcome to the forum.
Me tyres are knackered, me knackers are tired.. slow down psycle sluts...
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Welcome.
My '55 A10 had been in various sheds and garages for many years.She polished up pretty good.
https://youtu.be/nrOfq1O-gV8?si=RxoDkr3QjJYziCBc
If your machine has been left complete that is half the battle.
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Post a piccie of the bike when that tarp is removed!!
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I dread seeing that.. *eek*
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Errrrm, can I ask if it's been outside, under the tarp, for 50 years?????????
If so, I'll take it off your hands for £50.
*whistle* *whistle* *grins* *grins* *grins* *beer* *beer*
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G'day greybloke *welcome*
Best of luck with it mate. We have a dedicated Long Stroke section.
Looking forward to see pics once the tarp is removed.
My 51 A7 plunger spent 15 or more years in a chook shed. Took a year to rebuild. 43 years later I'm still loving her.
Cheers
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*welcome* i think you might need new handle bars and other bits *whistle*
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Post a piccie of the bike when that tarp is removed!!
Me to *welcome*
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I dread seeing that.. *eek*
It'll be fine. Er... probably. I'm looking to keep it as original as poss - but there's a ton of pattern parts out there if needs must.
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Errrrm, can I ask if it's been outside, under the tarp, for 50 years?????????
If so, I'll take it off your hands for £50.
*whistle* *whistle* *grins* *grins* *grins* *beer* *beer*
Ah, being new to the forum, I can't find the ROTFL emoji *smile*
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G'day greybloke *welcome*
Best of luck with it mate. We have a dedicated Long Stroke section.
Looking forward to see pics once the tarp is removed.
My 51 A7 plunger spent 15 or more years in a chook shed. Took a year to rebuild. 43 years later I'm still loving her.
Cheers
Good on you, Muskrat! Yeah, they built 'em tough back then. I shall indeed share pics.
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*welcome* i think you might need new handle bars and other bits *whistle*
Could be. I've been checking out metal finishers, got a few nearby who claim they can work wonders. Wanna keep it as original as poss but gobsmacked at the availability new/old and pattern parts. It will purr again!
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Welcome.
My '55 A10 had been in various sheds and garages for many years.She polished up pretty good.
https://youtu.be/nrOfq1O-gV8?si=RxoDkr3QjJYziCBc
If your machine has been left complete that is half the battle.
Tidy job, Greybeard! Did ya restove or paint cycle parts?
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Mine was complete when I bought it (been stood 10 years in an old fella's garage waiting for restoration). I did think about tidying it up and putting it back on the road with patina but, not knowing anything about its history, ended up as pretty much a nut and bolt resto. The frame and ancillaries were powder coated. Tank, oil tank, toolbox and mudguards were painted. Rechromed, fasteners zinc plated, wheels rebuilt with new rims and s/s spokes, engine rebuilt (twice because an idiot called RM fooked up the first one). All in all, spend around £4.5k on it (not including the second engine rebuild), but because I bought the bike originally for a breathtaking £950, it meant I could splash out a bit on it.
There's probably enough bits and pieces lying around in members' garages to build at least one machine from scratch.
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Tidy job, Greybeard! Did ya restove or paint cycle parts?
I had cycle parts sandblasted and powder coated. Tinware was professionally sprayed with two-pack and then matted off and polished. Bright bits were replated by a company that specialise in classic vehicle work. The fuel tank had a dent that I worked on to reduce to a ripple. The tank was chromed all over. I got the sprayer to fill the dimpled area before spraying. Luckily the damage was in the painted area of the tank. You would not have known there had been any damage.
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Graybloke you will probably find that the costs of rechroming vs replacing means that rechroming is a non-starter, especially for cheap items like bars, levers, wheel rims, headlamp rim etc.
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Interesting to see what may be not ONE but TWO Longstroke bikes emerge from slumber. While the majority of frame and cycle parts intechange with later Plunger bikes, the major engine castings are unique so finding some parts will be not as easy as anticipated.
Having said that, some ebay sellers think the rarity commands a high price, but watching Longstroke bits on a regular basis shows some stuff has been repeatedly listed for over a year, price unchanged, no takers.
The cosmetics certainly soak up the cash, and while restoring back to original is all very well, I'd prefer producing a rough looking but reliable, useable machine that would be back in use quicker and cheaper.
Cue for a timely warning from GB, concerning that 'lil old oilway........
Swarfy.
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The cosmetics certainly soak up the cash, and while restoring back to original is all very well, I'd prefer producing a rough looking but reliable, useable machine that would be back in use quicker and cheaper.
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Ain't that the truth.
All depends what we want to do with thing afterwards I guess.
If you want a daily rider, then the cosmetic investment isn't a good plan as the deterioration in daily use will cause you pain every time it rains. Need to be obsessive compulsive about spit and polish to keep a daily rider looking good. I'm not the least bothered: one of mine is about to get its 4th oil change since last November.
If a beast is for occasional use, or a show pony, then yup, go for it - while the money lasts! Bearing in mind the value of the finished result will probably be only half the investment (if that matters) and that the difference in values between machines with patina and a track record of reliable regular use as compared to little-used and shiny isn't what it was. (More because 'shiny' prices are down rather than scruffy ones being up, although 'original' in decent working order has its own premium.)
We're a broad church luckily. Sometimes I see a friend who says 'Bill, you do actually have a couple of shinies, so why do you insist on using scruffy ones and why don't you smarten them up?' To which I say 'Because I like them' and, more to the point, 'How often do you see them break down?'
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Up to maybe two years ago, if you were sensible with rebuild costs and handy with tools it was usually possible to break even at sale time when moving on a resto; those days are sadly gone and there's good but patina'd bikes for sale relatively cheaply now.
I've seen a mid-50's Red Hunter go for £1650 and an A10 (still with shiny tank) unsold at £2500 recently, and a brace of pre-unit Triumphs needing fettling through non-use go for £2000 apiece.
Personally I rather like old and patina'd, so the new values suit me, but it does bring a wry smile when someone advertises a pile of assorted parts for 2/3K and hope they'll find a mug buyer, when an uptogether bike goes for similar money.
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I spent £4.5k restoring my Plungie. That was in 2012. When I sold it in 2023 I got that much for the bike. I would have liked more but not too bothered - I got a lot of pleasure from the machine.
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G'day GB.
I got the old plunger A7 for a carton of beer and a tank of fuel in 1982. Spent about $3K to refurb and about $2K on rebuilds of motor since. I like patina and as long as she goes I don't bother too much on looks. Recon I'd break even if I sold her (now washing my mouth out !!). Deb knows my ashes will be poured into the hole in the frame under the seat. If I can't take the bike with me I'm staying with the bike!
Cheers
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I've seen a mid-50's Red Hunter go for £1650 and an A10 (still with shiny tank) unsold at £2500 recently, and a brace of pre-unit Triumphs needing fettling through non-use go for £2000 apiece.
I posted this already recently with sadness Rex as it was a '57 machine I owned in my youth. Bought for £80, sold for £90 which was ill-invested in a bitza café-racer A10 that wasn't very good to put it mildly.
Alloy barrel comp motor (not same year, but so what, rare as hen's teeth), all the correct other bits, barely used in 50 years - and it went for a measly £1200 at Cheffins. I was one day late spotting it out there or I'd have had it in a heartbeat (and would have happily paid more).
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As some berk on TV says, "cheap as chips".
I guess those wise old sages who've been complaining for years that it's too expensive to "get into" classic bikes are now keeping schtum.
For an ever-lasting practical plodder it would be hard to beat that Ariel.
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Deb knows my ashes will be poured into the hole in the frame under the seat. If I can't take the bike with me I'm staying with the bike!
Cheers
Are you planning to haunt the bike? The engine suddenly goes full throttle for no reason! 😳