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Title: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 17.01. 2016 10:12
hi everybody ,I have just imported two mudguards from india , they are not up to the standard I wanted , holes in the wrong places , too wide , the metalwork looks as if its finished with a hobbing iron and a blue brick , I am not  mentioning any names , they have offered to sort it out ,    see what happens     tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: v8ivor on 17.01. 2016 19:24
I've heard some horror stories about stuff from those parts and have been tempted myself but I've been put off by the postage rates if it has to go back. I noticed a UK supplier selling it at a higher price, so I guess they get the best stuff !
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: muskrat on 17.01. 2016 19:35
Yes, most parts from the sub-continent need work to make fit. I bought a front guard for the '51 from there. It took 2 lbs of spray filler to hide the angle grinder marks.
Cheers
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Rocket Racer on 18.01. 2016 01:54
I've bought a couple of bits of tinwear from india including a front mudguard and was happy with neither of them  *shh*.
A local BSAOC member had better success buying via Burtons who could act as a filter for quality. He bought a tank for his flash, the paint was apparently rubbish but the tank and chroming serviceable.

I must admit that if I was forced to go down the path of buting indian tinwear again I'd try and do it via a reputable supplier who will ensure some quality
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 22.01. 2016 10:10
that's good thinking r r ,       now they have told me to return the mudguards , which is almost as much of the cost of the items, I don't know wat to do at this moment   . if anyone has any ideas I would be glad to know.    t w
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: muskrat on 22.01. 2016 10:38
Make'em fit, paint'em, use'em till you find better. I did 5 years ago, still haven't found better, but I'm riding.
Cheers
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 22.01. 2016 12:35
I think that's the way I will have to go musky , I haven't got the original mudguards , it would be great if someone could give me a few measurements of both , like length  width , I can move the holes anywhere but the general dimensions would help , I don't want to spend all the time repairing these and finding the fit only 17" wheels mine is a  a10 1959 , I do have front and rear stays and I hope they are for this bike     thank everybody tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: nimrod650 on 22.01. 2016 19:32
I've bought a couple of bits of tinwear from india including a front mudguard and was happy with neither of them  *shh*.
A local BSAOC member had better success buying via Burtons who could act as a filter for quality. He bought a tank for his flash, the paint was apparently rubbish but the tank and chroming serviceable.

I must admit that if I was forced to go down the path of buting indian tinwear again I'd try and do it via a reputable supplier who will ensure some quality
a reputable supplier mentioned on the forum sells indian a10 centre stands but doesnt advise fitting  them as they are prone to snap??? a mate bought a new a10 tank he removed masking tape after painting and chrome came with it
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Rocket Racer on 23.01. 2016 07:18
for my super rocket i ended up having an old guard repaired to chromeable standard as well as a battered but genuine tank. it wasnt cheap but the chrome was proper triple plating. Did it right spent the money! am currently getting the export tank for my a75 panel beaten and will rechrome. far Dearer than a repro but its the original tank and will be right not half right
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 23.01. 2016 08:41
hi all, ive bought a tank from india , it looks good  i haven't tried it yet its still in the box, sounds as if there is not much to look forward to by the sound of things   tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: bsa-bill on 23.01. 2016 10:04
from my own experience.
The tank is reasonable for the price paid, some slight coppery sheen through the chrome in one place but you have to look for it, the coating inside the tank does look a little like rust so could also hide some rust if stored dry, if not using it soon as; fill it with petrol or petrol/light oil mix, also you might need an extra rubber distance piece in the bolt tube.
Bought mine at an autojumble so could select the one I bought, I have sealed it but think it maybe was not needed, it may at some point need re chromed so yes buying a bare tank is possible the way to go
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: bikerjohndavies on 24.01. 2016 09:06
I have an original 1960-62 version (part number 42-6904) deep valance rear mudguard spare, the one for the arrow head stays. I bought it to replace the chrome one on my Super Rocket that was in a very poor state but did not use it in the end. If it is of interest to you then PM me.
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 26.01. 2016 13:51
hi,  can anyone tell or show me where the front of the rear wing fit s, and does it go between the sw/arm I have thrown my originals away  thanks   tw   1959 a10          ps there is not a bsa a10 as far as I know anywhere near me or I would go and look , there is a autojumble  on 30th , there will be plenty there I hope
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: trevinoz on 27.01. 2016 22:58
It doesn't go between the swing arm. The mounting holes line up with the cross member.
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Clive54bsa on 28.01. 2016 00:05
I bought an English style RGS rear mudguard from George Prew complete with brackets, many years ago, and they were excellent quality, however the mudguard was not drilled for mounting holes in the mid-section nor the area in between the swing arm. George told me that it's almost impossible to drill holes and have them line up to every A10. So I drilled them to fit my bike, it was quite easy really.
I've been tempted once or twice to try my luck on a chromed and painted petrol tank with the tear drop badges, from India, but after reading this I would probably be disappointed.
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 28.01. 2016 13:12
thanks for replying everyone , that will give me a starting point to fit the mudguards, I don't mind welding up holes and re drilling ,  these have to  be  dollied up and reshaped they are so rough , I purchased some from india a few years ago for a plunger and they were ok not perfect I didn't expect them to be , but they were made by rolling machine I am sure , but these are made by hand probably by a 1st year learner.     I have just purchased a chrome and black tank I haven't fitted it yet but it measures up ok on the anchor points and the centre bolt , the fuel filler is 1/2"   forward according to my old tank     but I am hoping it will go strait on when the time comes    thanks again all   tw        ps   I paid £200 for the tank including postage
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 01.02. 2016 10:53
hi everyone ,  I still cant fit these mudguards,     my Haynes manual does not give me any exploded view , not like the triumph book does , can I get a drawing from somewhere to see how the brackets and stays fit and where they go , I have scanned the forum for ages but I must be looking in the wrong places , thanks    tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Greybeard on 01.02. 2016 10:58
I haven't read all of this thread; what year is the bike?
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: duTch on 01.02. 2016 11:33

 
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my Haynes manual does not give me any exploded view , not like the triumph book does ,

 there's your problem, trying to fit it to the wrong bike... *smile*
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 01.02. 2016 20:33
 hi , yes sorry my bike is a bsa a10 1959s/a , it came to me in a box , so I have nothing to compare to ,    tw           ps. go away dutch
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: chaterlea25 on 01.02. 2016 20:41
Hi, TW
Best bet is to get the BSA parts book for your year A10

HTH
John
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 01.02. 2016 21:02
 you are right john ,  that's what I will finish up doing. 
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: terryg on 02.02. 2016 05:54
Ensure you get the correct parts book for your 'model year', which may not be the same as the year when first registered.

For example, my 1959 registered Super Rocket is a 1960 model.
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: muskrat on 02.02. 2016 08:37
G'day Tw.
Here's a scan of my 58-59 parts book for the rear guard.
Hope it helps a bit.
Cheers
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 02.02. 2016 10:06
that's  great thanks musky that looks just right and thanks for taking the time ,   and I understand what you are saying terryg  tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: trevinoz on 04.02. 2016 00:33
TW,
             The guard mounts to the crossbar under the battery box and the next one up via saddles with 1/2" thick rubber pads.
Rear stays bolt to the frame and the rear of the guard.
The GA7 guards only have the lower saddle.
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 04.02. 2016 12:40
thanks trevinoz,  much appreciated,    would you be so kind if you have the mudguard handy , to give me a measurement down the centre front of the mudguard round to the rear tip , giving me the total length so I can see if this indian one matches.   tw
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: trevinoz on 04.02. 2016 22:03
Hi TW,
                 That measurement is 50".
Title: Re: mudguards
Post by: Tumbleweed on 05.02. 2016 08:21
many thanks trevenoz , the one I have is 49 1/2" so that is near enough for me .   tw