The BSA A7-A10 Forum

Technical => Lucas, Electrical, Ignition => Topic started by: Padsta33 on 04.07. 2016 20:34

Title: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Padsta33 on 04.07. 2016 20:34
Had my mag bench tested at a local bike shop, was only apparently showing a weak  spark.  It has now been sent off for rebuild.
At the cost of nearly £300!!!
Is this right? I know it's a specialist job, but seems awful expensive.
Anyone else had their mag rebuilt?
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Greybeard on 04.07. 2016 20:45
I can't remember exactly what I paid to have my mag overhauled, (my mind has blanked it) but it seemed hidiously expensive. However, every time the bike starts first kick I think it was flipping good value for money.
If I can find the receipt for the work I'll update this post.

A bit later: £480!!!!  *doh*

The armature was rewound, by the chaps wife apparently. I imagine her watching her favourite soap, but instead of sewing she's winding threads of copper wire onto armatures.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: muskrat on 04.07. 2016 21:00
Yep, mine cost $300AU in 1983.
Cheers
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: morris on 04.07. 2016 21:04
I had mine redone about a year ago by Brightspark.
New slipring, easycap condenser, pickups, oilseal and insulator washer.
£161.20 p&p included.
Guess it would be more though if the bearings must be changed and/or the coil needs to be rewound.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: terryg on 04.07. 2016 21:15
The price does depend on exactly what work is required. I've had two refurbished at approx. costs of £250 (over 8 years ago) and £150 (2 years ago).
If I need another refurb, unlikely, I'll talk to Priory Magnetos (beezermac of this forum).
I agree that a trustworthy magneto can save a huge amount of wasted time.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: polly on 04.07. 2016 21:28
I can second the need to talk to Priory Magnetos....Andrew is the man .   
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Triton Thrasher on 04.07. 2016 21:37
I'd recommend Tony Cooper of Halesowen.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Padsta33 on 05.07. 2016 05:37
So it's looking like the cost is correct.
To be precise it's  £270 + postage.
I just hope it is a full overhaul that I'm paying for .
I guess it's a dying trade and without competition.
I'm in the wrong job......😣
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Triton Thrasher on 05.07. 2016 06:38
So it's looking like the cost is correct.
To be precise it's  £270 + postage.
I just hope it is a full overhaul that I'm paying for .
I guess it's a dying trade and without competition.
I'm in the wrong job......😣

Did you get quotes from Priory and From Cooper and any others?  If not, I don't have much sympathy for your moaning about lack of competition.

How much would you charge?


Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: beezermacc on 05.07. 2016 07:47
My website gives a breakdown of prices. www.priorymagnetos.co.uk  Starting price is £35 for strip, inspect and report. If customers wish to proceed it is inevitable that the armature will need a rewind and new capacitor for £95. It is usually the case with K2F's that the oil seal needs replacing and a few other bits and pieces. Typically a K2F will cost about £200. I'm not touting for work as I'm on 'summer hours' at the moment and trying to keep work down to a minimum. If anybody thinks the cost of magneto repairs is expensive please compare the cost with other trades where there is some degree of skill involved e.g. plumber, electrician. A bloke came recently to fix our washing machine and charged £50 just for getting out of bed! I've just had my very ordinary car serviced which included a set of front brake pads, an oil change, and little else for £275 and they had the car for three hours. If you include the time it takes to rewind and rebuild the armature a K2F rebuild takes me about 8 hours. Having seen how a decent magneto transforms the pleasure of riding a classic bike I would say it's money well spent.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: ellis on 05.07. 2016 08:22
Couldn't have put it any better Andrew. Defiantly money well spent and very cost effective .


 ELLIS
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Butch (cb) on 05.07. 2016 09:25
Thought mine was sub £200 maybe around 10 years ago. That was with what I thought was a reputable company (can't remember now). I'd just figured - get it done right and get it done once. One less thing to worry might strand you at the side of the road.

If it helps I can advise that I've just paid not far short of £500 to get the dynamo on my Sunbeam S7D fully sorted by Stewarts. Ouch.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: TT John on 05.07. 2016 12:04
I had a K2F reconditioned by Tony Cooper Hayles Owen, recently, Ace chap and very reasonable £187, did a great job.

TTJohn
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: mugwump on 05.07. 2016 14:22
Just had my K2F completely re-built, stripped  re-wound coil new bearings and condensor etc £180.00. Its the 5th one done by same bloke  T.Salmon Burnham on Crouch ( actually his son has taken over ) broken cam housing replaced with good s/h one. Looks like new too. Never had any problems from any of them. Its the first job I automatically have done to a newly acquired machine, with unknown provenance I don't wait for it to start playing up. As has already been said, a failed Mag isn't a road-side repair.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Padsta33 on 05.07. 2016 21:14
So it's looking like the cost is correct.
To be precise it's  £270 + postage.
I just hope it is a full overhaul that I'm paying for .
I guess it's a dying trade and without competition.
I'm in the wrong job......😣

Did you get quotes from Priory and From Cooper and any others?  If not, I don't have much sympathy for your moaning about lack of competition.

How much would you charge?
I didnt mean to come across as moaning.
Just curious to find out if my ball park cost is the going rate or not.
I didn't have a choice as to who would do the work,  as the shop posted it. It fairly local to me, so I guess it's good to keep local economy good and folk in business.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Triton Thrasher on 05.07. 2016 21:17
When it's bursting into life when you slightly lean on the kickstart, you can put the price to the back of your mind.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Greybeard on 05.07. 2016 21:23
When it's bursting into life when you slightly lean on the kickstart, you can put the price to the back of your mind.
Yup, that's why I couldn't remember what mine cost!
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Billybream on 05.07. 2016 21:38
Decided to treat my K2F mag to some TLC by Priory Magneto's (poor thing had never had any work done to it since leaving the factory) as promised Andrew advised  on condition and reported mag was fine, but we decided to go for  replacement armature and condenser, with a few other bits, final cost was well under £200.00.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Butch (cb) on 06.07. 2016 14:21
Just had my K2F completely re-built, stripped  re-wound coil new bearings and condensor etc £180.00. Its the 5th one done by same bloke  T.Salmon Burnham on Crouch ( actually his son has taken over ) broken cam housing replaced with good s/h one. Looks like new too. Never had any problems from any of them. Its the first job I automatically have done to a newly acquired machine, with unknown provenance I don't wait for it to start playing up. As has already been said, a failed Mag isn't a road-side repair.

Are you down that way yourself?
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: mugwump on 07.07. 2016 19:47
Hi Cyclobutch, yes B-on C for the past 37 yrs. Despite the reticence on your profile I somehow think we may have met some time or other.
PM me.
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Butch (cb) on 11.07. 2016 10:47
Apologies for the delayed response, must have missed this one. I don’t get out much to be honest, and I don’t look much like that kid on the Puch chopper in my avatar these days.

Used to do what we called ‘the seawall walk’ as an annual exercise back when I was in the Scouts. That was along the wall from St Peter’s at Bradwell around to Burnham. Usually in early spring.   
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: 427Thunderbolt on 30.07. 2016 01:27
I just had Dougs Cycle barn rebuild mine with new winding, bearings/bushings, cap, easy cap with the condenser relocated out front for easy change in the future  for $580 .   Would have been 80 bucks cheaper but my housing was beat to crap so he has another .   It looks brand new and it runs awesome .
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Tumbleweed on 30.08. 2016 14:14
hi , Armoto Motor Units .   at Duckmanton    Derby s .  the best service I have  ever had they are very helpful. and cost effective  t w 
Title: Re: Mag rebuild cost?
Post by: Derby Rob on 30.08. 2016 21:00
i had mine done a couple of years ago ,i think i was around £280 -£300 ish .So i guess £300 sounds about right