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Title: is this the future?
Post by: mikeb on 03.01. 2018 21:22
i stumbled upon this: https://bsa.in/ (https://bsa.in/)
piled arms logo and all  *eek*
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: muskrat on 03.01. 2018 22:26
May be when we run out of fossil fuel. Not a second sooner for me.
Cheers
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: cyclobutch on 04.01. 2018 08:52
Freedom. Fun. Energy. Style. Comfort.

Hmmmm.
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: bsa-bill on 04.01. 2018 09:46
A thought occurred to me the other day while fuelling the car at Morrisons. what's it going to be like when /if electric cars are the norm, there will have to be a charging socket at every car space, petrol stations as we know them just would not cope, then who bears the cost of putting in all that cable/leads/sockets - and what about we rural folks for whom public transport is a distant memory.
Where's Oliver Cromwell when you need him
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: RoyC on 04.01. 2018 09:55
A thought occurred to me the other day while fuelling the car at Morrisons. what's it going to be like when /if electric cars are the norm, there will have to be a charging socket at every car space, petrol stations as we know them just would not cope, then who bears the cost of putting in all that cable/leads/sockets - and what about we rural folks for whom public transport is a distant memory.
Where's Oliver Cromwell when you need him

Also outside every ones house who does not have a garage.
You can't really have extension leads running across footpaths, with safety and vandals in mind.
Oliver Cromwell, did he have an electric horse ?
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: duTch on 04.01. 2018 10:05

 It's the past catching up.. *smile*

 Bill; someone told me the other day that there are already trial solar roads with integral LED's for line and sign markings that are programmable,  and can be changed to suit the conditions, so if expect changing points as regular as a servo...*dunno*- on the upside, folks'll save heaps on 'medication'  *smile*
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: KiwiGF on 04.01. 2018 10:19
i stumbled upon this: https://bsa.in/ (https://bsa.in/)
piled arms logo and all  *eek*

Ti Group PLC of the UK (now gone, after a merger with Smiths Industries) owned TI Raleigh Cycles amongst many other companies, and Raleigh owned the BSA cycle brand. My guess is that the joint venture company the TI Group set up in India has somehow inherited the BSA cycle brand as a result of the “historical” JV, I doubt they could export to outside of India but you never know eh.

I used to work for a TI Group company (when I lived in the UK), and one day I hope to still get a Pension from whoever owns what’s left of them when I’m 65!
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Post by: orabanda on 04.01. 2018 10:20
I reckon we need electric vehicles that use wireless connection for the power.
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: bsa-bill on 04.01. 2018 10:35
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there are already trial solar roads with integral LED's for line and sign markings that are programmable,

Wont happen here until some Cabinet minister has a finger in the pie

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I reckon we need electric vehicles that use wireless connection for the power.

 Could happen in the future but you'd have to sit through a few soaps before it charged cause doctor who is now female (will she know how to use the sonic screwdriver)
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: Greybeard on 04.01. 2018 10:48
A thought occurred to me the other day while fuelling the car at Morrisons. what's it going to be like when /if electric cars are the norm, there will have to be a charging socket at every car space, petrol stations as we know them just would not cope, then who bears the cost of putting in all that cable/leads/sockets - and what about we rural folks for whom public transport is a distant memory.
Where's Oliver Cromwell when you need him
I cannot really see electric vehicles, as they are today, becoming the norm. As you say, the infrastructure to support them would be very expensive. Also there's the recharging time. Who want's to stay put for long periods during a trip? Am I going to arrive at my destination and demand that they refill my car from their own plug? Am I going to pay for it? I still do 10k miles a year, with many long journeys. One of the current, (did you see what I did there?) electric cars just wouldn't suit my lifestyle. Battery tech will have to improve if electric is going to succeed. Maybe the hydrogen fuel cell is the future.
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: bsa-bill on 04.01. 2018 11:34
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Battery tech will have to improve if electric is going to succeed. Maybe the hydrogen fuel cell is the future.

Well they have a truck and a bus that will do a thousand miles ( doesn't say loaded ), thing is both are big enough to hold a very big battery (size )
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: cyclobutch on 04.01. 2018 13:02
Well, it’s all going hybrid right now isn’t it. And with the ability to recharge the batteries from the engine. Primarily perhaps so as to replace all of the diesels that no-one wants any more.
I’d guess we’ll see that drift continue for the next five years or so, after which they’ll probably have cracked being able to flash charge the battery packs in a more sensible time frame. Our main concern being the continuing availability of gasoline within a tank range of travel, and not being legislated off the road in the meantime (and accepting this already seems to be happening in larger city centres).
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: bsa-bill on 04.01. 2018 13:34
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replace all of the diesels that no-one wants any more.

Not sure ther'e talking all Diesels. think it is just older ones with but I'm open to correction.
Was watching "Inside Bentley" their new all terrain vehicle is diesel, you would think Bentley with it's obvious customers in the know would be aware of any forthcoming threats to sales
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Post by: ellis on 04.01. 2018 13:49
I agree.  With these tests carried out on commercial vehicles they don't say if the truck was loaded or empty. They wouldn't be doing the tests at night with the lights on or in minus temperatures with the heater going full blast. And don't forget the heated screen/mirrors and wipers. I think they are a long way off yet.

ELLIS
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: jachenbach on 04.01. 2018 14:17
Big Twin BMW in Boise (worked there before retiring) sold electric bikes for a while. Interesting to ride but they just don't have a suitable (for me) range. Here in the western USA, I find 180 miles (my Guzzi Stone, R90S) to be marginal. Reading at a doctor's office a couple years ago, someone was proposing battery exchange stations as a solution. Seems to me that presents a number of problems. The obvious (compatibility) and battery lifetime among them.  China has built a short stretch of road that somehow supplies electric power to vehicles riding on it. Don't recall the details. Just saw it on the news a couple days ago. Short term memory's not what it used to be.
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: Black Sheep on 04.01. 2018 14:40
The real future will come when these BSA bikes gain a Sturmey-Archer 3 speed hub gear. How I loved my Triumph Palm Beach. It was blue unlike my Dad's black Rudge bicycle. On that subject, electric bicycles are a usable hybrid. Not a bad range and you can bring it (or just the battery) into the hall to charge - no trailing extension leads. Doesn't sound as good as an A10 though.
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: Greybeard on 04.01. 2018 15:51
....Doesn't sound as good as an A10 though.
What about adding cardboard clickers to the forks using clothes pegs; that's what we kids used to do?
Title: Re: is this the future?
Post by: mikeb on 04.01. 2018 18:53
i think i read somewhere theres not enough lithium in the world to power even half the current fleet, and even then we'd need to leave some to calm down all the manic people, else imagine the standard of driving?!?!
i'm surprised they use the piled arms logo to sell kids bikes in india - imagine explaining the Crimean war and bayonets to a five year old at their birthday party