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Title: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 30.07. 2019 14:45
Has anyone got a camera mounted on their bike ?

I don't really fancy one stuck on the top of my head but imagine that a bike mounted one would shake too much to get a good picture.

Thinking that I could mount one on the sidecar.

What are your findings ?
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: morris on 30.07. 2019 21:53
Personally I don't like those helmet mounted camera videos. They make it look like the world is moving around the camera.
I'm thinking of buying a fixture to mount my phone on the handlebars and make videos with my phone but as you say, bit unsure about the effect the vibrations will have
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Topdad on 31.07. 2019 15:50
I tried velcross to hold my phone to my riding jacket seemed secure enough and walking pictures were fine ,just the though of my nice new all sing all dancing phone bouncing down the road holding me back  *doubt* ::hh:: *whistle*
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Swarfcut on 31.07. 2019 16:05
Recent video by DartmoorStar was a relatively clear and stable picture, almost like riding the bike. Camera seemed to be quite low, so bike mounted?
Swarfy.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 31.07. 2019 16:09
Personally I don't like those helmet mounted camera videos. They make it look like the world is moving around the camera.
I'm thinking of buying a fixture to mount my phone on the handlebars and make videos with my phone but as you say, bit unsure about the effect the vibrations will have

I don't have a mobile phone.
Looking at this one  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-Motorcycle-Camera-Motorbike-140-Camcorder-Video-Recorde-Dual-Lens-Cam/113778169461
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Greybeard on 31.07. 2019 16:33
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-Motorcycle-Camera-Motorbike-140-Camcorder-Video-Recorde-Dual-Lens-Cam/113778169461
Very cheap! If you get one I'd be very keen to have a report of its quality.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 31.07. 2019 16:47
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-Motorcycle-Camera-Motorbike-140-Camcorder-Video-Recorde-Dual-Lens-Cam/113778169461
Very cheap! If you get one I'd be very keen to have a report of its quality.

Yes.
I have two in the car and they cost me £190 each (Blackview)
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Minto on 31.07. 2019 19:07
I’ve got a SJCAM which gives excellent clear video, and has anti shake, the sound nd however is rubbish.
I’ve mounted it in a few places on my Aprilia RSVR, best result was stuck to the right hand fairing lower, got some great footage of a few rides round Wales, good being able to see how hard the Ohlins forks work.
I’ve clipped it to my jacket pocket for a couple of rides on the A10, a bit shaken but not bad.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: muskrat on 31.07. 2019 20:39
G'day Roy.
I like the look of that one. It says it loop records but doesn't say for how long or if you can turn off loop and just record a whole trip.

G'day Minto, can we see them?
Cheers
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Minto on 31.07. 2019 20:47
Muskrat
If I could figure out how to post just a picture on here it would be a start. I’m not terribly good at this technology stuff. I’ll try to figure it out at some point but all my previous attempts to post a pic of my bike have resulted in a telling off for my file size being too big.
So do I have to save stuff to Boto-phucket or something in order to post it??
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: muskrat on 31.07. 2019 21:13
G'day Minto.
For resizing I use "Paint" a windows app. Right click on photo, open with Paint, click resize. It asks by what % so just try 50% and save as (add a 2 to the name and save to desktop).
https://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php?topic=427.0
Cheers
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: duTch on 31.07. 2019 22:58
 
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......I don't have a mobile phone.
Looking at this one  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-Motorcycle-Camera-Motorbike-140-Camcorder-Video-Recorde-Dual-Lens-Cam/113778169461

 Seems to be same as this on Ozziebay;

 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Motorbike-Camera-Motorcycle-1080p-HD-Video-DVR-Video-Dash-Cam-Recorder-DVR/333268843037?hash=item4d985efa1d:m:m1dbVsWJHaRdZv4UmE6PdRw (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-Motorbike-Camera-Motorcycle-1080p-HD-Video-DVR-Video-Dash-Cam-Recorder-DVR/333268843037?hash=item4d985efa1d:m:m1dbVsWJHaRdZv4UmE6PdRw)

 Minto, I don't wish to overload you with options, but I somehow have a appy thing on my last three Android phones called 'Photoresizer'- daed easy, just use it to 'take a photo' and save it in a small choice of resolution and job done. The good thing about it is the photo is already in a small file size so saves storage space, and don't end up with multiple files.
       Just need to save to SD card and not the infernal drive (when they all get lost when the phone breaks)
File can then be sent via bluetooth or whatever or just add to the reply/post via the forum method- pieceapiss *good3*



Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: mikeb on 31.07. 2019 23:42
while i dont have a camera to speak of, a mate has a new-ish sony (=$$$)  waterproof action cam that he attaches to his modern. the main things are its got a decent image stablilizer so doesn't shake about so the image is solid despite some vibration  (but its a modern triple, not a bsa!). then think about the lens angle -if its too wide you get a wide vista of the side of the road but everything ahead is a tiny dot. when he was chasing me around a track it looked like i was miles ahead  *smile* but most of that was the lens   *sad2*. then check if it makes one file or many. some clip the files at 1G max, then make multiple files, which is usually fine but annoying if you want to watch a long ride. conversely some cameras will lose the whole file if the battery goes flat before you stop filming, so 'chunks' may be better. I think the real problem is its hard to establish all this before you put your money down.

personally i think all cameras should be banned from the road as an invasion of privacy. i fear someones dash cam is going to cost me some legal money one day  *eek*
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RichardL on 01.08. 2019 03:03
Shot this video of the 2017 Distinguished Gentlemens Ride with my Galaxy S7 in a chest harness. Start the recording with a voice command, but haven't figured out how to stop it the same way. For that, push a screen button. No looking necessary.

Richard L.

https://youtu.be/KExuG32T6i4
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: duTch on 01.08. 2019 09:36

 
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......personally i think all cameras should be banned from the road as an invasion of privacy. i fear someones dash cam is going to cost me some legal money one day  *eek*.......

 Yes that's probably (one of) my major concern too...but works both ways

 I also dislike the helmet cams too-anyone looking at my footage if I did it would need to go straight to Optio-psych ward debriefing.... *eek*

 Though I reckon if I had one and there was a bounty on cage drivers using phones, I'd make a fortune- maybe a handlebar mounted one on a swivel or something....but that's not much different to using a mobile device is it  *conf2* ?   saw a girl texting the other day with both hands on a freeway *bash* *bash* *bash*

Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 01.08. 2019 10:31

 
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Though I reckon if I had one and there was a bounty on cage drivers using phones, I'd make a fortune- maybe a handlebar mounted one on a swivel or something....but that's not much different to using a mobile device is it  *conf2* ?   saw a girl texting the other day with both hands on a freeway *bash* *bash* *bash*

My son has a CB in his van and I asked him if he could get nicked for using it while driving and he said NO, it's not illegal to use a CB but it is to use a phone.   *conf2*
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: Greybeard on 01.08. 2019 10:46
My son has a CB in his van and I asked him if he could get nicked for using it while driving and he said NO, it's not illegal to use a CB but it is to use a phone.   *conf2*

I'm not sure he is correct; I think you can get done for swigging a drink while driving. Anything that distracts you while driving could cause an accident. Drivers turning their head to speak to the passenger worry me.

I found this:

Q: A number of my van drivers use CB radios while driving. Does the law on using mobile phones include the use of CB radios?

A: Although the use of two-way radios while driving is not covered by the hand-held mobile phone regulations, there are more general rules you need to be aware of.

A driver could face prosecution while using the radio if its use caused a distraction or affected the standard of driving.

The offence of failing to have proper control of the vehicle is long-standing and may be used to deal with incidents where the driver has been distracted by any equipment, including CB radios.

The more serious offence of careless or dangerous driving, causing death by careless or dangerous driving is also available to prosecutors if the distraction can be shown.

As an employer, you could also face prosecution for causing or permitting these offences, or for breaching your duty of care and health and safety obligations, if safe use policies are not put in place.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 01.08. 2019 11:53
My son has a CB in his van and I asked him if he could get nicked for using it while driving and he said NO, it's not illegal to use a CB but it is to use a phone.   *conf2*

I'm not sure he is correct; I think you can get done for swigging a drink while driving. Anything that distracts you while driving could cause an accident. Drivers turning their head to speak to the passenger worry me.

I found this:

Q: A number of my van drivers use CB radios while driving. Does the law on using mobile phones include the use of CB radios?

A: Although the use of two-way radios while driving is not covered by the hand-held mobile phone regulations, there are more general rules you need to be aware of.

A driver could face prosecution while using the radio if its use caused a distraction or affected the standard of driving.

The offence of failing to have proper control of the vehicle is long-standing and may be used to deal with incidents where the driver has been distracted by any equipment, including CB radios.

The more serious offence of careless or dangerous driving, causing death by careless or dangerous driving is also available to prosecutors if the distraction can be shown.

As an employer, you could also face prosecution for causing or permitting these offences, or for breaching your duty of care and health and safety obligations, if safe use policies are not put in place.

Thanks for that GB, I'll let him know.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: berger on 01.08. 2019 12:06
i have not been to the pub *work* *work*not illegal to have a drink, which I know is as crazy as not having an MOT in some cases *beer*. my mate saw a copper driving a van having a drink and thought he would report him. the person whom he spoke to said it wasn't illegal *dunno*
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 01.08. 2019 12:18

 Drivers turning their head to speak to the passenger worry me.


And me.
China and Brewer are the worst for doing that on Wheeler Dealers.
They must go for 20 or 30 yards without looking at the road once.
Title: Re: Cameras
Post by: RoyC on 01.08. 2019 12:26
Any way. Getting back on topic.
I've ordered this one, I'll let you know how it goes.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1080P-HD-Motorcycle-Camera-Motorbike-140-Camcorder-Video-Recorde-Dual-Lens-Cam/113778169461