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Post by: Greybeard on 22.05. 2020 16:05
I often see a nice image associated with old motorbikes. I save them. Please add your own choices.
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Post by: BigJim on 22.05. 2020 19:25
Nice one GB.
 *wink2* *loveit*
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Post by: scotty on 23.05. 2020 16:58
been on my shop wall for yrs
Don’t know artist
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.05. 2020 22:49
Isn't this a great picture?
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.05. 2020 22:54
Back to BSA
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.05. 2020 22:58
Square 4
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Post by: berger on 23.05. 2020 23:08
so that's where my old mans lathe ended up. new Zealand. not really but much like it, good pics greybeard
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Post by: Black Sheep on 24.05. 2020 07:14
My late Mother in law and my late Dad. What a shame they never met. Of course I have a Velo in the stable.
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Post by: Sav on 24.05. 2020 09:29
Googled the first one, fairly unspoiled after sixty plus years!

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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 09:46
Another great image!
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 09:51
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 13:47
Googled the first one, fairly unspoiled after sixty plus years!
Fantastic! That is fairly close to me. I'll try to get a picture of myself there on the Beezer when I'm allowed to leave the house!
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 13:53
German Triumph
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Girls!
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:37
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:42
Soldier on Ariel
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:47
I just found this text :

[1928?] Fully loaded, I think this is Betty & Nancy Debenham and furry friend setting off on thier documented of tour of the UK. BSA patented foot warmer, in action!
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:52
When I was a boy our neighbours had one of these. It had a Villiers engine and the front wheel mounted on the steering mechanism. The engine had no reverse but that was no problem as the steering could be turned right round to give the vehicle backward movement. Starting the engine meant lifting up the bonnet, (hood) and putting your leg inside to kick-start the engine! I think the engine was only 197cc!
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:54
1927, 16 octobre, Montlhéry, Claude TEMPLE, OEC-TEMPLE
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 17:56
Coca Cola, back when it had traces of cocaine in it (it was cocaine free by 1929).
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 18:00
Before I was born my parents had a tandem with a sidecar for my sister. This is not them.
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 18:05
More girls
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Post by: Steve.Carter on 24.05. 2020 20:44
Soldier on Ariel

Fantastic picture, may I post it on the Ariel forum?

Steve
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.05. 2020 20:47
Soldier on Ariel

Fantastic picture, may I post it on the Ariel forum?

Steve
It's not mine, I found it on Pinterest. Take a chance.
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Post by: WozzA on 25.05. 2020 07:16
Good stuff Neil..   *wink2*
Here's some pictures of my old mate's father & his bikes when he was a young'n & later in life..
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Post by: Greybeard on 25.05. 2020 08:47
Good stuff Neil..   *wink2*
Here's some pictures of my old mate's father & his bikes when he was a young'n & later in life..
Really good pictures WozzA! Thanks.
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Post by: muskrat on 25.05. 2020 09:10
My great uncles shop pre WW1 and just a friend!
Cheers
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Post by: Angus on 25.05. 2020 12:57
I am sure I had posted this before but could not find it and could not find the picture on my computer. So original re-scanned. My grandfather on a New Hudson :)
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Post by: Greybeard on 25.05. 2020 13:46
I am sure I had posted this before but could not find it and could not find the picture on my computer. So original re-scanned. My grandfather on a New Hudson :)
Lovely Angus. Do have an idea of the year? The bike has belt drive so quite early.
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Post by: Steve.Carter on 25.05. 2020 21:29
Soldier on Ariel

Fantastic picture, may I post it on the Ariel forum?

Steve
It's not mine, I found it on Pinterest. Take a chance.

Cheers

Sfeve
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Post by: Angus on 26.05. 2020 08:38
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Lovely Angus. Do have an idea of the year? The bike has belt drive so quite early.

Hi Gb sorry do not know date. From what my mother told me early to mid 20's but she told a good story. I do know where 'Thorpe Abbotts Norfolk'
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Post by: RichardL on 26.05. 2020 12:50
I am sure I had posted this before but could not find it and could not find the picture on my computer. So original re-scanned. My grandfather on a New Hudson :)

Angus,

Since you didn't say "grandparents" I take it the lady is not your grandmother. Correct?

Richard L.

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Post by: cyclobutch on 26.05. 2020 15:01
When I was a boy our neighbours had one of these. It had a Villiers engine and the front wheel mounted on the steering mechanism. The engine had no reverse but that was no problem as the steering could be turned right round to give the vehicle backward movement. Starting the engine meant lifting up the bonnet, (hood) and putting your leg inside to kick-start the engine! I think the engine was only 197cc!

My Father bought one of these for my Mother so she could learn to drive without him having to take her out. It wasn't a success and the car ended up dumped in our orchard as a play thing for me. He painted 'Z Victor one' on the door. It was a soft top like that one. He sold the engine on. I guess it all went for scrap when the orchard got sold for development.

He also stuck my mother on his autocycle one time and then followed her down the road in the car shouting instructions to her. Another less than successful outcome.

 
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Post by: Angus on 26.05. 2020 15:13
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Since you didn't say "grandparents" I take it the lady is not your grandmother. Correct?
You know Richard that is a really good question and one I don’t know the answer to. I never knew my grandmother and so when this picture came to light in my mother horde of old photos I asked who it was and wrote on the back granddad Frank, I don’t recall what exactly she actually said. Now all bar one of that generation have gone, but I will have to ask my mothers cousin if he knows who the lady is. families the strangest of things  *smile*
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Post by: Bsareg on 26.05. 2020 15:14
My farther said "before the war, he tried unsuccessfully to teach mother to drive his BSA". He rudely stated "that she would never drive while she had a hole in her ar*e" ! She never did.
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Post by: Greybeard on 26.05. 2020 18:07
she would never drive while she had a hole in her ar*e" !
Got a picture?
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Post by: WozzA on 27.05. 2020 00:19
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Since you didn't say "grandparents" I take it the lady is not your grandmother. Correct?
You know Richard that is a really good question and one I don’t know the answer to. I never knew my grandmother and so when this picture came to light in my mother horde of old photos I asked who it was and wrote on the back granddad Frank, I don’t recall what exactly she actually said. Now all bar one of that generation have gone, but I will have to ask my mothers cousin if he knows who the lady is. families the strangest of things  *smile*
Thats for sure...   Last year while researching my fathers WW2 history I discovered he BORROWED  *dunno* a Army BSA M21 & went AWOL for a day to visit a young lady he "Got into trouble   *eek* " he was court martialed & docked 1 months pay.     *eek* *rant*
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Post by: Clive54bsa on 27.05. 2020 00:52
Kirk going where no man has gone before.
Cheyenne on a Goldie
Steed and Emma Peel avenging in a BSA rig
HRH putting an M20 through her paces.
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Post by: Greybeard on 28.05. 2020 10:43
A few more images
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Post by: a10gf on 28.05. 2020 11:07
^^^ the v-engine with shaft drive *ex* and the size of that cylinder  *smile* *smile*
Great.
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Post by: BigJim on 28.05. 2020 11:35
Looking at that last photo " health and safety gone mad, i mean who needs a front mudguard"! No problem with that excellent drive chain etc etc.
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Post by: RDfella on 28.05. 2020 11:45
That monster engine pic is curious. No engine controls or brakes are visible, the exhaust, if there is one, appears to point at the rider’s chin and the front ‘suspension’ would collapse if it went over a pebble. What a banger.
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Post by: RichardL on 28.05. 2020 12:44
Well, the "Monster" turns out to be a racing version of a 1903 Buchet and the rider is a gent named Maurice Fournier. I am struggling to figure out the theory of operation, where it looks like the exhaust returns to the intake (though that can't possibly be what's happening). There are several other photos on line if you care to use Google.

Then, I can't help but wonder if the rider is related to a certain other "Fournier", first name "Vincent". Certainly a resemblance.

Richard L.
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Post by: RichardL on 28.05. 2020 13:00
After reading a bit more, I think I have it. The pipes that wrap around are part of the intake system that is kinda like ram induction. The exhaust is via two stubs pointing straight back and visible in the second photo.

Richard L.
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Post by: Topdad on 28.05. 2020 13:59
Hope this comes out my old employers back in the 60's ,this crowd were watching the bikes come back from the manx ,we used to show them in the windows of the showroom.
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Post by: Topdad on 28.05. 2020 15:00
and for good luck an old advert
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Post by: Topdad on 28.05. 2020 15:01
sorry GB hijacking your post   *red*
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Post by: Greybeard on 28.05. 2020 15:32
sorry GB hijacking your post   *red*
Not at all. Everyone can add their own images!
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Post by: Greybeard on 28.05. 2020 15:33
Well, the "Monster" turns out to be a racing version of a 1903 Buchet and the rider is a gent named Maurice Fournier. I am struggling to figure out the theory of operation, where it looks like the exhaust returns to the intake (though that can't possibly be what's happening). There are several other photos on line if you care to use Google.

Then, I can't help but wonder if the rider is related to a certain other "Fournier", first name "Vincent". Certainly a resemblance.

Richard L.

Well done Richard!
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Post by: RDfella on 28.05. 2020 19:59
Richard - I note the front forks are completely different from the earlier pic - hence my reference to potential collapse!
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Post by: RichardL on 29.05. 2020 01:30
Richard - I note the front forks are completely different from the earlier pic - hence my reference to potential collapse!

I noticed that too, but just figured it was something Mo (we're on nickname terms now) did for racing. Perhaps to lighten the front end. No clue, really. As fas as we know, he could have taken a face plant the first time he tried to ride with them.

Richard L.
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Rockers!
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Post by: Greybeard on 02.06. 2020 11:53
George Brough with his hand on racer/sales rep Eddie Mayer at the Nottingham factory | Image: Courtesy Brough Superior
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Post by: Greybeard on 02.06. 2020 19:21
Triumph
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Post by: Angus on 03.06. 2020 09:59
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Triumph
just like mine  *smile*
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Post by: Greybeard on 03.06. 2020 11:16
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Triumph
just like mine  *smile*

By my reconning, you have 2 BSA's, a Norton and a Triumph. Are you going to try to get the whole set? What next, a Vincent?
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Post by: Angus on 03.06. 2020 15:19
Hi GB
I wanted to buy a Suzuiki GT550 as it was different (a 2 stroke), I think they look pretty  and I rode my friends in my youth.
My eldest son who rides my bikes as well said NO, I needed a theme and so we talked about it and came up with one of each makes parallel twins preferable the ‘original’ 500cc versions. So I now have 3. Have to get an Enfield Meteor minor, AJS model 20 or Matchless G9 (both the same) and an Ariel KH, oh yes and a bigger garage  *smile*
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Post by: Greybeard on 04.06. 2020 11:11
Daimler. A BSA company.
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Post by: RichardL on 04.06. 2020 12:06
Leaving it to your imagination: an A7/A10 Forum group photo.

Richard L.
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Post by: Seabee on 04.06. 2020 13:01
That would be a LOT of gray! *eek*
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Post by: Greybeard on 04.06. 2020 16:16
That would be a LOT of gray! *eek*

50 Shades?
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Post by: Greybeard on 04.06. 2020 18:50
https://cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/pasco/Pasco-1920-Cat-EML-01.htm
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Post by: RDfella on 04.06. 2020 21:02
The days before everybody and his dog / cat had a phone. Imaging calling "is that Australia? I'd like 8347 please. And you'd get through. My 'landline' (as it's called nowadays) was originally 17.
You simply asked the operator for the number you wanted and were put through or, if the operator knew the person called was out, would invariably tell you that Mrs Brown had gone shopping and would be back in the hour. Shall I ask her to call you when she returns? The days when you knew your neighbours and service was willingly given.
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Post by: groily on 06.06. 2020 12:04
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/06/05/sarah-gibson-dispatch-rider-one-fighting-wellses-lauded-war/
Couple of good period pix of female DR who just died. In the Daily Telegraph for 6 June. Can't seem to copy and glue 'em here, but an interesting read. One of 9 children of the Bedford brewery magnate (Charles Wells), all or most of whom whom served in WW2, several brothers being killed in Navy, Air Force and Army.
Not sure if the link above will work, but anyway. May be of interest to some on here.
Personally, I really ike those kinds of lives remembered - gutsy woman by any standards! And good quality pictures too.
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Post by: Greybeard on 06.06. 2020 16:10
Pictures for Groily
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Post by: groily on 06.06. 2020 17:11
Yurrastar Neil!
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Post by: Greybeard on 07.06. 2020 10:08
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Post by: Swarfcut on 07.06. 2020 10:41
Pity the BSA Twin was not in the main line up, it's there in the background. Assume it's a Super Flash. Maybe too heavy for the gal on the Bantam. Matchless is an early swing arm version, so pic from around '55? Earlier models were rigid frame, tele forks.

 Bike parked behind the Flash, half in view, could almost pass as a modern rice burner factory custom.

 At least one imported motorcycle has marked its territory, on the paving in front of the line up. The strapline on the Valvolene ad could be the answer to wet sumping, but as always, you can't believe that claim.

Swarfy.
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Post by: Greybeard on 07.06. 2020 11:45
Don't try this at home kids!

BTW. That carb looks very much like the updraught  bronze Zenith fitted to my 1929 Austin 7.
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Post by: Triton Thrasher on 07.06. 2020 13:48
Quote from: Swarfy
Matchless is an early swing arm version, so pic from around '55? Earlier models were rigid frame, tele forks.

Looks like swing arm with the 1949-51 “candlestick” rear shock.
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Post by: Greybeard on 07.06. 2020 13:55
1935. This scene was commissioned by the Motor and Allied Trades Benevolent Fund for a Christmas card. It shows a Morris Eight Tourer alongside an AA patrol.
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Post by: Clive54bsa on 09.06. 2020 23:12
Here are a couple more from the artist Denis Sire
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Post by: JulianS on 17.06. 2020 12:21
Where to buy your bike, the latest riding gear and a very nice Shooting Star owned by my Great Uncle in the 1950s.
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.06. 2020 14:29
Long Stratton Norfolk UK

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1AXz1x9kf7YY1i2x8


The building on the right, shows Dutch influence. The drainage of East Anglia in the 17th century was engineered by Dutch experts and their influence shows in some older buildings.
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.06. 2020 15:36
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Post by: RDfella on 23.06. 2020 15:43
With that gear ratio it either does 500rpm or 500mph!
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.06. 2020 15:44
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.06. 2020 15:46
With that gear ratio it either does 500rpm or 500mph!
It looks approx a 50% reduction. Tiny fuel tank. I guess that engine would not rev very fast. Maybe the bike is a pacer for cyclists.
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Post by: Greybeard on 23.06. 2020 15:48
Glenn Curtiss and his V8 motorcycle with which he broke the world record of the fastest vehicle on earth (1907)

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Curtiss

On January 24, 1907, Curtiss set an unofficial world record of 136.36 miles per hour (219.45 km/h), on a 40 horsepower (30 kW) 269 cu in (4,410 cc) V-8-powered motorcycle of his own design and construction in Ormond Beach, Florida. The air-cooled F-head engine was intended for use in aircraft. He remained "the fastest man in the world", the title the newspapers gave him, until 1911, and his motorcycle record was not broken until 1930. This motorcycle is now in the Smithsonian Institution. Curtiss's success at racing strengthened his reputation as a leading maker of high-performance motorcycles and engines.
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.06. 2020 11:54
Apologies if I'm duplicating.  *eek*
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Post by: JulianS on 24.06. 2020 12:25
Two adverts from 97 years ago.
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Post by: Greybeard on 24.06. 2020 17:47
Bishop's garage, Five Oak Green, Tonbridge, Kent.