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Technical => Lucas, Electrical, Ignition => Topic started by: flashblack on 30.09. 2009 10:26

Title: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: flashblack on 30.09. 2009 10:26
Hi all,
        Does anyone have a pic of the horn mounting inside the `58 onwards nacelle?
I believe the horn is an HF 1441, and as far as i can make out it is bracketed onto the bottom yoke, although i have never seen a bottom yoke with holes for the bracket. Any info appreciated.
     cheers,   Richie
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: bsa-bill on 30.09. 2009 16:27
Hi Richie - Got a pic for you but uploads not possible at the moment, basically it is two holes tapped into the bottm joke and a braket to the horn

All the best - Bill
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: trevinoz on 01.10. 2009 09:48
Richie,
           As Bill says, there are two tapped holes in the bottom yoke and an angle bracket bolted to the yoke with at least two spring steel plates connecting the horn to the bracket.
Trev.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: flashblack on 01.10. 2009 16:47
Thanks guys,  i did manage to get a look at one recently, but it was in a very rusty state so i couldn`t see it very well, also, are the two holes tapped into bosses in the bottom yoke, making it a different casting from the non hole type yoke, as i don`t think it would be a very good idea to just drill my existing yoke, as it doesn`t seem thick enough to take a thread?
This might seem a bit dense to you, but i`ve never had a nacelle on the bike, and i can`t remember ever seeing a bottom yoke with tapped holes in it either.
      regards,    Richie     
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: trevinoz on 01.10. 2009 21:41
It is just a standard yoke with the holes drilled and tapped. 1/4 cycle I think. Also the holes are offset to the centre line which points the horn to the left, again I think.
I will have a look at one later to confirm.
Trev.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: bsa-bill on 02.10. 2009 12:59
As our administrator has worked his magic here is a pic of the bottom yoke, the two holes are as you can see drilled and tapped into the yoke so that the bracket sits  an angle on the yoke

All the best - Bill
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: flashblack on 02.10. 2009 17:45
Thats great Bill, i was confused by the parts book showing those holes on the diagonal, which i thought was a bad drawing. Now i just have to source a bracket.
 
    all the best Richie
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: trevinoz on 05.10. 2009 07:36
Richie,
           Here's what the bracket set-up looks like.
The bottom bit is an angle bracket with two 1/4 clearance holes on one side and two 2BA tapped holes on the other.
The straight bit comprises four spring steel plates drilled to suit.
Probably the same as the Triumph nacelle horn.
Trev.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: flashblack on 05.10. 2009 17:50
Thanks Trev,
Thanks Bill,
                   That`s everything i need to know on that subject, cheers for the info

                                 regards Richie
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: trevinoz on 06.10. 2009 22:21
Richie,
          after 1960 a smaller horn was used, Lucas HF8.
Trev.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: flashblack on 08.10. 2009 17:56
Trev,

 Thanks again, i now almost feel like an A10 horn expert, which, of course i`m not.

  regards Richie 
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: rocket man on 10.10. 2009 11:07
all this talk of horns is making me horny *smile*
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: 1660bob on 20.02. 2010 20:36
Reading this thread, am I right in thinking my `61 super rocket should have the horn on the bottom yoke as per above photo`s-at present, it has the Lucas heavy "altette" style clamped down by the front engine mount. (I assume by 1961 the heavy Altette style was well out of production, and this would force the issue for BSA to fit the HF8 as shown? Bob.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: trevinoz on 20.02. 2010 21:00
Bob,
             The HF1234 was used on non nacelle bikes to the end of production.
The swinging arm models used the one with the corrugated tone disc and flat bezel.
Trev.
Title: Re: HF 1441 horn mount
Post by: 1660bob on 21.02. 2010 13:27
thanks Trev, panic over....... ;)Bob.