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Title: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 09.11. 2009 01:04
Good morning,

Was wondering if someone out there had Super Rocket parts book / manual in digital format that they would be prepared to share ?.

Thanks in advance,

Josh
Joshua_Cox1@westnet.com.au
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: dpaddock on 09.11. 2009 01:40
Go to
     www.britbike.com/com/cd/index.html

David
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Brian on 09.11. 2009 23:49
Now why would Josh need a parts book for a Super Rocket when he owns a plunger Flash ? Wouldn't have anything to do with this by any chance............................

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BSA-SUPER-ROCKET-1962-63_W0QQitemZ120490354282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item1c0dc8e66a
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 10.11. 2009 11:41
No, a whole other Super Rocket.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Brian on 10.11. 2009 23:18
So your looking at a second bike are you Josh, just be carefull as it can be the start of a slow but definite slide into the depths of multiple bike ownership.

It all starts out innocently enough, owning one is a lot of fun and you think it would be nice to have two. But this is where it can start going wrong, suddenly a third one turns up and you just cant turn it down, and then another, and another............ next thing you know you have a shed full. Everywhere you go you will start looking for more bikes or parts, its a terrible disease and will consume your life....

Put a sign over your shed door    "abandon all hope ye who enter here"
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 11.11. 2009 06:53
Some drink, some do drugs, some have a mistress and others bikes.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: groily on 11.11. 2009 07:06
To be fair, one can multi-task too (there are some agreeable recreations on the list) . . . but Brian's right. They breed once you get to a pair, and then there's no stopping them . . . But who'd want to try? No such thing as too many machines, the only limitations are shed-size and wallet. Both mine are over-stretched.
I wonder how much a nice new bigger dry shed would cost . . . .
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: muskrat on 11.11. 2009 08:41
Hay Josh I'm in trouble, have ALL the symptoms but married the mistress. She said yes to a bigger shed. I'm in heaven.
Cheers
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: orabanda on 11.11. 2009 13:21
It would never happen to me......!

Richard
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: mike667 on 11.11. 2009 13:36
It would never happen to me......!

Richard

nice shed!
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 11.11. 2009 23:02
Biggus Dickus, I really enjoyed riding those imaginary bikes of yours  *smile*.

For a wife to allow her husband to own that many bikes, he'd need to be hung like a horse,,,,,,, and I'm not.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: orabanda on 12.11. 2009 04:42
Sometimes i think she would like me to be hung from the neck!
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: olev on 12.11. 2009 07:03
eat your heart out.
I got this RGS for 25 bucks and a piecost.
where did you say the engine number was on these things??
btw. Josh, have you got the first one running yet?
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 12.11. 2009 09:51
Tom,

The bike is done ( rolling with all the shiny bits and electrics ), the engine is being put together by "the Engine guy", not far off.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 18.11. 2009 14:49
Hi Josh,

Did you get any joy finding a manual for the Super Rocket? I do have a heap of stuff i'll sort through it when i get home. I'm not sure what i have, but have loads of BSA stuff, I'll let you know!

Richard, Is that your Workshop? whats all those bits of plastic next to the proper bikes??

My tip for additions to the bike collection is ..... When SWIMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) says where did that come from? the standard reply is....
Oh that old thing, yea thats been in the back of the shed for years covered with sheets (not Shit).

Its starting to wear a bit thin now!

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: orabanda on 18.11. 2009 21:57
Steve,
That's my workshop at home.
When we built the house, I had the shed erected at the same time. As I wheeled the 10th bike in, my wife said with some sense of relief and satisfaction "Well no more bikes for you; the shed's full".

So I remembered that (and mused).

A few years later when we purchased a 4,500 square metre block and built new work premises (including an 80 metre x 20 metre workshop), I asked the builders to throw in a 9m x 7m shed for "Special Projects", in the corner of the block.

I am the only keyholder.
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/orabanda/Bikesinworkshed.jpg)

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn82/orabanda/IMG_2965.jpg)

It's filling up; these are old pics!

As for the "Plastic" bikes; variety is the spice of life. Anyway, most of the older japanese bikes have mainly metal in them!.

Richard




Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: NickSR on 18.11. 2009 22:44
Hi
Not what realey want I have RGS Intruction Manual PDF if thats any help?
Regards
Nick
1962 Super Rocket
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Josh Cox on 18.11. 2009 23:11
Nick,

That would be helpful, could you email it to me ?, thanks.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Brian on 18.11. 2009 23:59
Richard, I have been looking at the photos of your home shed and one thing has got me puzzled. You say that when you wheeled the tenth bike in your wife said that the shed was full. Now either your wife or I can not count, I get a lot more than ten !

I envy you your shed space, I have a 9x6m shed that currently has thirteen bikes in it plus lathe, mill, two bike lifts etc etc.

I also agree about different bikes, I have three non BSA's and they have their own attributes. (1973 TS 185 Suzuki, 1971 SL70 Honda and my 94' 1000s Moto Guzzi)

I like the idea of having a shed in a remote location that not many know about, that ones got me thinking........................
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 19.11. 2009 09:56
Nice one Richard!

Was only joking about the japanese stuff, only because i have never had a modern bike!

I do have a "Bunker" but unfortunatly it has been religated to a store for building materials while i finish the garden. That was the deal with SWIMBO, you can have a workshop if i can have a garden.  Done deal! i just didnt foresee the slight time issue! Well the gardens all but finished now, so soon i'll be reclaiming my workshop. I know mine is a tad under 30sq meters, to conform to some building regulation.

Anyhow enough of that....

Josh, I have a late A10 parts book that might help you and i will find what ever else i have on Super Rockets and send you. Watch this space ....
I'll probably be able to send them off tonight when i get home

Regards

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 20.11. 2009 14:40
Josh

You should have Mail!

I sent out a Parts book by Email last night

Regards

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Mosin on 24.11. 2009 12:19
I hate to risk userping this thread, but I was wondering if anyone has an electronic version of the parts book for my 1960 A7 Shooting Star that they could possibly email me?

Many thanks in anticipation

Simon
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 24.11. 2009 16:16
Hi There

Yes quite probably can you pop me an Email

I'll check tonight, it'll be the same one i sent Josh it covers A7 A10 and its the later models

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Mosin on 24.11. 2009 17:07
Cheers Steve, I've sent you a PM with my email address.

Simon

Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 24.11. 2009 19:25
Hi Nick, Simon

I had some problems with your Email addresses they bounced !

I think i have found them on this site now and you should both have mail

Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: NickSR on 25.11. 2009 18:50
Hi Steve
Sorry gave you wrong Email address, recived information thanks, how would you like the RGS PDF 16.4 MB

Regards
Nick
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: Mosin on 26.11. 2009 09:34
Just out of interest, I was wondering how forum members stand on the issue of the various BSA parts companies who repoduce BSA literature either in electronic or paper form and then sell it on at a profit? I can see that there may be some costs incurred in reproducing these documents, but nothing like what some companies charge. To my mind it seems like an absolutely blatent breach of copywrite laws? Presumably the legal owner of the copywrite to BSA literature must still exist somewhere, and if that person ever realise that they are loosing out on a significant income in this way it could result in significant legal proceedings.

That said, I'm dead chuffed with my parts book and shared freely too!

Thanks Steve!
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: muskrat on 26.11. 2009 11:32
Yes Steve I agree but the way the net is these days copywrite of literature, music or movies  is looking like a waste of time. Look how many files are on offer here.
Gotta go, my download just finished !
Cheers
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: BSA_54A10 on 26.11. 2009 11:45
BSA Regal are the current copy right owners where it still exists.
They also own both the winged BSA logo and the piled arms trade mark although there are a few companies who still lave a legal right to use them.

As for reproductions of literature I am all for it.
If you have ever tried to scan , correct and clean up say a parts book then you will know just how much work goes into such a venture so selling them at a small profit is reasonable and a much better outcome than the material being lost forever when the hoarders grand kids clear out all that old rubbish in pop's place by dumping them into a bin.

However morons who buy a copy of some one elses work and pirate them that is a different matter as is those who sell bad scans, & poor or incomplete photocopies.

There is some thing like 3000 BSA parts books and I am yet to find any person or club with a complete set.
Then there are the dealers & distributors information bulletins. These were never meant for general circulation but without them we would be stuck with no refference material other than the Haynes ( other years are similar) manuals.
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 26.11. 2009 19:53
Hi All,
I'm glad you got the manuals OK Simon and Nick, and Nick thank you very much for the RGS operating manual

I'm not sure how long the copy write on these old manuals last, possibly 50 - 75 years but im not sure if Regal took over the copy write, if they had they would be suing people all around the world including the BSAOC.

I did contemplate selling my BSA Information collection, i have spent many, many hours collecting cleaning up and scanning and as Trevor says its a hell of a time consuming job, not to mention buying the extremely expensive Acrobat Professional!  I have built it into a Web(site) that runs off a DVD that allows easy and fast access things easy to find, rather than trolling through endless PDF's. I, amongst other things am a technical author at work and i use this Web on a disc method to catalog access technical information for our engineers to use on site.
I doubt id bother to sell it, but it makes you think about doing so to get a few pennies back for the hundreds of hours put in and I'm sure that's why others do so.

IF! i were to sell the disc for example on Ebay, the simple get out clause is .... "I'm selling my technology, the web skills, the hours of labour .... Not the content, that is free of charge"

That said, anyone that wants anything that i have they are more than welcome to a copy free of charge! in fact i am going to rebuild our local BSAOC web site and i will probably put up the whole collection for free use.... Maybe.

Enough of all that rubbish! i have just won the Swinging arm for my RGS replica that i have been hunting down forever HOORAH!!!

Cheers All

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: NickSR on 26.11. 2009 23:09
Hi Everyone
I would just like to say a big thank you to people like Steve who have the skills and TIME to be able produce and pass on the information that we are so desperate for.

This is why the forum is great, everyone are so willing to give advice and information for our common insterest in the BSA A series.

Again thanks guys
Nick
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: 69Bonni on 27.11. 2009 12:06
Nick and all

Well we all share a common interest don't we, to preserve and keep these great bikes on the road! Anything that helps that happen across the globe is a good thing, and forums like this where everyone is so helpful is nothing less than inspiring.

I have so many people to thank in the classic bike world but i guess its all about helping each other. Talking to people you find out some amazing things. I think its great that nowadays you can freely chat to the likes of Trevor, and many others all over the world with so much knowledge to be shared isn't it just amazing.

One thing i have learn teaching apprentices and engineers is never be to proud to learn something even from the youngest lad, and its amazing what you can learn.

I haven't even started my rebuild yet but there are always endless questions aren't there, and i thought i knew about bikes, i mean growing up in the "Rickman" family i had now choice but to be surrounded by bikes!

To finish up, anyone that needs any BSA info, any bike, just drop me a line if i can help i will..

Kind Regards

Steve
Title: Re: Wanted, Super Rocket manuals, PDF or similar ?
Post by: a10gf on 27.11. 2009 20:39
Anyone knowing of online documentation not already in 'BSA related links' can post some links, and any material (not obviously copyrighted) can be emailed and I can make it available from the forum server.
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