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Technical => A7 & A10 Engine => Topic started by: Gavin on 25.02. 2010 11:12

Title: Security
Post by: Gavin on 25.02. 2010 11:12
Just wondering what forms of bike security are recommended for the A10 with no key, a 6 volt positive earth and just fires up off the maggy. Am sure you will provide some helpful insights.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: MG on 25.02. 2010 11:38
I fitted a hidden switch to earth the magneto (I won't tell where  *smile*)
And I bought a new steering lock, because the keys for mine were missing.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: tombeau on 25.02. 2010 12:30
I moved to a country where they respect peoples property *smile*
Cheers,
Iain
Title: Re: Security
Post by: MG on 25.02. 2010 12:42
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I moved to a country where they respect peoples property

Utopia?
Title: Re: Security
Post by: 1660bob on 25.02. 2010 13:01
Yes I agree, a suitable, covert, switch tapped into the magneto "kill" wire is a must.It needs to be cleverly hidden, but of course accessible to you easily. How about under the tank so when you go to tickle the bike/turn fuel on/off you can discreetly engage the switch and stop the mag from sparking.Obviously,safe installation with regards to electrics/petrol overrides all other considerations *ex*. How many of us have steering locks but no key??? None of these will stop a determined thief of course, but will prevent a casual theft.Can you imagine the horror of being at a race meet or similar and hearing the nice throaty roar of a brit bike, you turn to look and admire and think wow, nice A10, its just like mine....Bob
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Mosin on 25.02. 2010 14:13
I always think that there is  lot to be said for a bloody big chain/padlock...
Title: Re: Security
Post by: a10gf on 25.02. 2010 16:44
Make a special advance xtra+ setting for the mag, and stand back to see the thief breaking his leg *lol*
Title: Re: Security
Post by: LJ. on 25.02. 2010 17:41
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I always think that there is  lot to be said for a bloody big chain/padlock...

Chain and padlock is the way to go... I suspect that some do not like this idea because of possible damage to chrome wheels. My answer is a chain inside a pushbike inner tube with those nylon zip ties each end to hold it in place. Chain round wheel and frame makes a heavy A10 very difficult to move.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: muskrat on 25.02. 2010 19:16
I like e's method ! Must have similar sense of humor. Most KIDS under 40 wouldn't know how to use a kickstart anyway ! Chain and lock works for me.
Cheers
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Desburnett on 25.02. 2010 19:19
Interesting, I have got to the point where for security reasons I need to protect my pride and joy even before she is finished. Ground anchor is on hold as I am moving house but chaining to the bike lift seems a good option. Although as mentioned earlier a professional will defeat most security attempts you just have to make it too awkward to make it worth while. Read an article from a security chain manufacturer who has a "Page of Shame" where most of the current motorcycle security chains are tested including the Ride reccomended and Sold Secure items which fell to the charms of 42" Irwin bolt cutters which is the stock in trade tool for naughty boys. Also many chains will never resist an abrasive disc cutter even some of the low powered battery units. There was discussion about through hardened links or case hardedned, through hardened being more susceptible to cracking especially when treated to a spray of freezing agent.
It appears to stay out of the clutches of manual bolt cutters (Portable hydraulics are another problem) you need to go up to 19mm section links which in turn are heavy. Dont forget the crafty dodge that matey uses where you leave your chain chained to a fixed object and return each day. If the chain is sleeved they pull back the sleeve, cut the chain and make good with a cable tie, pulling the shroud back over to cover their evil work. You turn up next day and chain your bike up as normal never suspecting that it is only held together with a cable tie, the rest is.......
Title: Re: Security
Post by: MG on 25.02. 2010 19:28
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Make a special advance xtra+ setting for the mag, and stand back to see the thief breaking his leg

Brilliant idea! But always put the bike on the centre stand, you wouldn't want that limping a**hole to knock it over, would you?
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Josh Cox on 25.02. 2010 22:12
Paint your bike pink and put a "Gay Pride" sticker on the fuel tank, reckon that would work.

There are fuel taps for sale on ebay that are key locked.

Put a very large padlocked chain through the back wheel and over the seat, when out in public.

If you have a concrete floor in your shed, dyna bolt a bracket to the floor and chain your bike to it.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: LJ. on 26.02. 2010 09:53
The only trouble with good security when your out is... What happens if you loose your key? I 'know' I have a very good chain and padlock but I'm always a little paranoid in case I loose that key. It was only on my return from the dragon rally that I found the key had broken in the lock, it is the type where key is extracted when lock is engaged. I assume that what had happened is that the key was in lock and resting in an ideal place within top box, for vibration to do its destructive work. grrrrrrr
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Josh Cox on 26.02. 2010 09:58
How about a modified version of this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUPBlQxJF0w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUPBlQxJF0w)
Title: Re: Security
Post by: muskrat on 26.02. 2010 11:52
Years ago I had a Blue Heeler dog that went everywhere on the tank and stayed with the bike when I was in the pub. She cost me a few beers to mates that got too close.
Cheers
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Gavin on 26.02. 2010 14:41
So do some riders carry a thumping great chain or cable with them as they ride? Then chain the bike while at their favourite watering hole?
Title: Re: Security
Post by: mike667 on 26.02. 2010 16:20
So do some riders carry a thumping great chain or cable with them as they ride? Then chain the bike while at their favourite watering hole?

yes!
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Gavin on 26.02. 2010 23:53
Ok, so the good old BSA brings out the convict in me, and I carry a ball and chain wherever I ride eh? How do you carry it while riding? Velcro it round ya waist? You certainly have me curious.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: muskrat on 27.02. 2010 00:07
You don't get bikes stolen in the UK. You sent all the crooks, cricketers and footballers over here 200 years ago. LOL
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Gavin on 27.02. 2010 09:33
Oops Muskrat, I am also a convict. Out west with the best... orabanda and Josh, till he got too posh and headed for Cans !!!
Title: Re: Security
Post by: Josh Cox on 27.02. 2010 11:24
Inbreeding and living in caves got too much for me, I must confess, I have not gone "Full Metrosexual", I can't come at showering everday, wearing "product" in my hair and having "boyfriends", all a bit lost on me.

Gav, you might find some comfort in knowing that I still appreciate a good fart joke.
Title: Re: Security
Post by: mike667 on 27.02. 2010 12:26
Ok, so the good old BSA brings out the convict in me, and I carry a ball and chain wherever I ride eh? How do you carry it while riding? Velcro it round ya waist? You certainly have me curious.

 big chain and lock, fits over shoulder and under heavy leather jacket -  would seem a bit uncomfortable but you forget about it after a bit

great for locking bike up -  or recreating chain fight for 60s biker movies
Title: Re: Security
Post by: A10Boy on 27.02. 2010 19:58
One fault with the "secret switch" idea, is that you can simply pull the kill wire from the mag and ride away.

I use a humungous lock and chain, and have a ground anchor in the garage, car parked in front of the doors. If that fails, there's always the 12 Gauge.

Seriously though, you might not be able to stop a thieving b;stard taking it away, but you can make life difficult, the longer it takes to get through your chains etc, the more likely they wont bother.

In fact, based on the theory that I have to open the garage doors to get the bikes out, therefore giving sight of the bikes, I always make a big show of fitting chains locks etc with the doors open so if anyone is watching they know that they would have several serious chains to cut through and that would take some time. F'kum