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Title: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: MG on 20.07. 2012 10:31
Hi!
Haven't been very active here for a while now, due to change of circumstances (profession), heavy workload, etc. etc. But wanted to let you know that I am still around and doing fine, as are the As, although they don't get used a lot these days...
Anyway, I just read this ad in the Gold Star magazine, does anyone know more? Sounds interesting.
Cheers, Markus

edit: The one at the top of the page  *smile*
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: RichardL on 20.07. 2012 20:51
Markus,

First,  good to hear from you. Something in metalurgy,  I presume. Second,  if current news,  the availability of such castings should come as a relief to the group,  by knowing that we can keep 'em going.

Richard L. 
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: Brian on 21.07. 2012 00:32
Hello Markus, good to hear from you again.

The cylinders certainly look interesting and if the quality is good then there should be a market for them. It works out to about $950 AUS which is about what I would expect to pay for a new set of cylinders. The ones in the pic appear to be blanks but I assume they would come fully machined.

Hopefully more and more parts like these will come available and our bikes will still be ridden long after we are all gone. The more they are ridden the higher the demand for spares and that makes it viable for someone to remanufacture the necessary parts. A win win situation.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: duTch on 21.07. 2012 09:48
Yup they sure look the part, particularly if finished, doesn't say if they're cast in iron=10 kgs, or alloy, bearing in mind shipping all the way uphill to Oz, maybe the same $£$£ even in alloy?? Doesn't really matter though if they do the job?
 Might make a phone call monday
  Cheers
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: a10gf on 21.07. 2012 15:08
Hi there MG, nice to see you again here. Am hoping we will see more of your excellent posts soon. Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: duTch on 23.07. 2012 12:57
Just called up and had a yarn with Mike Pipe, and he sounds like they've done a lot of work on these, in cast iron for now, reckon exactly like BSA or better and considering alloy depending on demand, they make ply boxes for shipping.
He gave me an email address and said ok to post on forum, which I'll do when I know I got it right.
 Cheers for now

  Had a few goes, and finally called Mike again to email me. His email is:->
pimic1@aol.com

He has 10 sets of barrels ready to go
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Thick flange barrels £650. plus p.p  No Vat
 
We have 10 painted and ready to go (barrels)
 
Regards Mike Pipe
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: Topdad on 01.08. 2012 16:15
Hi Markus, good to hear from you again and with such interesting news particularly the RGS heads caught
my attention they could scuttle the plans of a few people on e-bay who seem to think original second hand alloy heads will fund there retirement in full! regards BobH
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: MG on 08.08. 2012 21:19
Thanks for investigating, Dutch. Sounds good indeed!
And thanks to all for the warm welcome (back)  *smile*


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Markus,

First,  good to hear from you. Something in metalurgy,  I presume

Hello Richard, well, I was more into mechanical engineering than metalurgy, but in the broadest sense you are right. With my current project I am fulfilling a live-long dream and have been starting my own restoration and engineering business in a 1000 sqm large, fully equipped workshop.
If you are curious, you might want to follow our progress on www.histo-tech.at (http://www.histo-tech.at)

Err, oops, I hope this isn't considered illicit advertisement  *red*

Cheers and all the best, Markus
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: Topdad on 09.08. 2012 12:15
Hi Markus, just had a look at your set up, very impressive  ,I can tell you're going to be the historic car and motorcycle equivalent of " the old machine company" based at Duxford . Best of luck with your venture BobH.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: a10gf on 09.08. 2012 18:01
 Markus, congratulations, well done & must be a great feeling seeing things become reality.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: muskrat on 09.08. 2012 20:25
 G'day Marcus, well done mate. Wish I had a setup like that near me. Great web site and I love the gear stick gate as emblem.
Best of luck with it.
Cheers
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: RichardL on 09.08. 2012 21:52
Soon, you and your partner Ed will be buying classics and fixing them up on TV for quick money. (http://www.wheelerdealer.com/)

But, really, are you working or playing? I know I would love to play in that shop and forget that I had to earn a living.

Best of luck to you. Please risk being off-topic here to let us see some projects. e will let us know if it gets out of hand. Just always park your A10 next the car project.

Richard L.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: JulianM on 10.08. 2012 13:47
Interesting project!  Shame he isn't going the ally route already as it would save me a lot of hassle if he did  *smile* *smile*
http://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php/topic,5771.0.html



Marcus,
have a look here.
www.LMBracing.be  my company in Belgium,

Regards,
Julian
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: MG on 10.08. 2012 17:38
Gents, thanks a lot for your encouraging words!
Whenever anyone of this forum happened to be nearby, feel bound to drop by for a drink of your choice!  *smile*

This reminds me of a nice feature on the AJMOC website: They have set up an assistance list for members. In case of a breakdown, you have online access to a list of members, sorted by country and region, and with information about available facilities (accomodation, garage/overnight storage, workshop, single/double trailer, towing), plus the full name, address and phone (preferably mobile) number.
That could be a neat idea for the member's section of this forum methinks??? Nice to know whom to call when you are stranded, especially in a foreign country. Just a thought, up for discussion (maybe start a new thread?). Of course we'd need to make sure the data is safe, since that is a LOT of personal information!


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Soon, you and your partner Ed will be buying classics and fixing them up on TV for quick money. (http://www.wheelerdealer.com/)

Nice one Richard!  *lol* I was well surprised when I first read your remark, because my partner's name is indeed Ed (or rather "Eddy")!!! (How the heck did you know???) Then it occured to me that you were referring to Ed China... Although I doubt that there is such a thing as quick money with restorations, especially if you take it seriously!
I have however imposed strict separation of "working" and "playing" upon myself, otherwise there is indeed high risk of frittering away time. So there's designated time to play, and designated time to "work" (although I don't feel it as such, MOST of the time at least).
I shall post pics of our projects on the website as we go along, so keep checking back! No need to spam the forum ;)

Julian, very impressive website and facilities, makes my old shack look like a chicken house... At least now I know whom to bother when it comes to pre-war parts. One can't have too many contacts and too wide a network! Website duly bookmarked  ;)

Thanks again, Bob, musky, Erling and Richard, for your supporting wishes, let's hope so, by goodness!!!  *smile*

Cheers and all the best, Markus
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: iansoady on 11.08. 2012 12:01

This reminds me of a nice feature on the AJMOC website: They have set up an assistance list for members. In case of a breakdown, you have online access to a list of members, sorted by country and region, and with information about available facilities (accomodation, garage/overnight storage, workshop, single/double trailer, towing), plus the full name, address and phone (preferably mobile) number.

Many years ago, the Norton Owners' Club had a printed emergency aid list (just phone numbers) As I recall (probably incorrectly), it was fear of litigation that stopped it.

Having said that, other forums (like the Triumph Tiger triple list) do have a "help and cups of tea" section so shouldn't be too difficult.
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: Rocket Racer on 15.08. 2012 22:45
Interesting project!  Shame he isn't going the ally route already as it would save me a lot of hassle if he did  *smile* *smile*

Regards,
Julian

Just had an email, they are planning to do alloy barrels AND their iron barrels are capable of being taken out to 78.5mm bores  *respect* *yeah* *yeah*
Time to start thinking about a big A10 motor!
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: muskrat on 16.08. 2012 09:15
 Mmmm, there go's the new car  *conf*. Got the cases, crank, rods & cam on the shelf. Now to find a set of 78mm (gotta leave at least 1 rebore) slugs with the right crown/pin height. Might get 150mph  *eek* out of the old cafe yet.
Did he give a guesstamate on cost for the alloy ?
Cheers
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: duTch on 16.08. 2012 09:36
I emailed also, a couple of days ago, and had a reply today,
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Hi Dutch we have 10 iron barrels, but are in the possess of making alloy barrels at the moment we have 4 heads. But 10 more on the way. Shipping cost are barrel £91.00 heads £63.00 heads and barrels together £107.60 hope this helps you  Photos are in this months classic racer mag page 96 under The Norvin center add, hope this helps
 Regards mike

His email is >pimic1@aol.com< ph +442088015659
 
   Was thinking the ally ones might ship a bit cheaper, but cost more to buy, will email him and see.
 Cheers duTch
Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: Rocket Racer on 16.08. 2012 10:01
78mm 802cc  ;D nice!



Title: Re: new A10 barrels and heads???
Post by: JulianM on 27.09. 2012 12:53
You would have to be mighty careful with head studs and pushrod tunnel at this bore size!!  I thought 76mm would be about the sensible limit!
Would be happy to be proved wrong!  Will get the boring bar out then  *smile* *smile*
my 88mm stroke would give me 840cc  Wow!  would that be fun!

Muskrat,
Newly made one or two off pistons are far cheaper than you think!  Hardly worth the time looking in the books to find something to fit and even then wouldn't you rather have a nice forged piston?

Julian