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Title: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.08. 2013 10:24
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By the way, "I" before "E" except after "S"
or "H" as in their, heir
it's English full of rules and unexplainable exceptions (as Miss Joice was continually trying and failing to impress on me)  *conf* *conf*
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: muskrat on 07.08. 2013 10:57
How can I change my spell check over from American to English. Half my page has red wiggly lines under words.
I failed English at school, but the teacher liked me  *whistle*.
Cheers
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.08. 2013 11:51
don't know what browser your using Muskrat but Firefox has built in/add on dictionary's and  English UK is what I have installed, must say it's pretty good.
Still undecided about which browser to use, trying Chrome now, seems alright but I keep coming back to Firefox
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: Topdad on 07.08. 2013 12:26
Bill ,I always thought it was " I before E except after C  and Musky I somehow get the felling it's best not to ask how much she liked you ,but I have anyway  !! BobH.
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.08. 2013 12:48

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I before E except after C

and the usual exceptions to trip you up - receipt deceit 

Then I was always taught AN before a vowel as in An Apple An orange but not for a Banana, however many so called Journalists these days seem to reverse that
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: A10Boy on 07.08. 2013 13:56
Oh No, don't get me started........................ Why do young 'uns go into a bar and say "Can I get a beer ?", or in a resteraunt they ask the Waiter "Can I get a Steak?" - No, the barman will get your beer and the waiter will get your steak.

And before anyone mentions the modern miss-use of the Pluperfect Subjunctive, please don't....
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: muskrat on 07.08. 2013 15:35
Yes Bob, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. *grins*
Thanks Bill, Firefox, found it, got the Aussie dickanharry. Bugga, doesn't cover slang.
Cheers
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.08. 2013 16:02
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got the Aussie dickanharry. Bugga, doesn't cover slang



has "Ashes" been omitted then  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: lawnmowerman on 07.08. 2013 20:14
Oh No, don't get me started........................ Why do young 'uns go into a bar and say "Can I get a beer ?", or in a resteraunt they ask the Waiter "Can I get a Steak?" - No, the barman will get your beer and the waiter will get your steak.
 

Totally agree Andy - I thought it was just me! What's it all about? Every time I hear it I have to stop myself correcting them.

Other things the "young 'uns" seem to have started recently is when serving in a shop or a bar, as you approach them they say "you alright there" when a more appropriate salutation would be "can I help."
Also the lads who have just left school and persist in calling you "mate" when they serve you and the young checkout assistants who want to know what you are doing tonight / have done over the weekend etc.

Perhaps it is just me getting old - I certainly feel it when they ask if I need help packing my shopping in Tesco!

Exit Grumpy old Man mode  *smile*

Jim
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.08. 2013 21:34
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Exit Grumpy old Man mode
-  why  I find it an enjoyable mode to be in

Title: Re: Babel
Post by: kiwipom on 07.08. 2013 21:40
hi guys, Lawnmowerman, yes the english language is not what it used to be you hear some strange sayings over here but learne to adapt and live with it. (the lads who have just left school and persist in calling you "mate") in many parts of Aussie they start every sentence with `Mate`but that`s how it is, it would be quite boring if we were all the same,cheers mate,lol
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 08.08. 2013 12:51
Yep some local variation is quite acceptable as it's warm and welcoming I think, up this end of UK sentences often end with "like" or "but" and sometimes both
" that's a nice bike you've got like but"
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: Topdad on 08.08. 2013 13:51
Would that be as in scouse parlance, for instance " Do you know what I mean ....LIKE " It's one of the few things that annoys me about being Liverpool, thankfully all of my lot don't sound like that , I'd cut 'em out of the will (little do they know we are busy spending there inheritance  anyway ha ha ) also strange but the worst scouse accents and mannerisims come from Birkenhead ,can't understand that either, regards BobH.
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 08.08. 2013 17:50
yes much the same Bob - depends a bit on the tone also, Glasgow often comes across very confrontational " Noo Jimmeh" sounds like a declaration of war often.
scouse - I quite like, it's one of those things I think where people dislike their own local accent more than others and there is grades of harshness in all of them
but "day do dat don't day"  always give me a smile
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: gavinoz on 08.08. 2013 22:40
I worked in the UK on a farm near Berkhamstead, th locals in the village finished every sentence with '...with it' pronounced 'wivit' as in "that's a great bike you've got there...wivit"
gav
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 09.08. 2013 10:07
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that's a great bike you've got there...wivit

Almost full circle then - init
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: Topdad on 09.08. 2013 12:16
Can just see you with your cap on backwards Bill,  honestly don't mind the scouse from years ago when I first arrived in Liverpool as a kid, for instance your girl was your "Judy "standard greeting was , how you doing La , you walked down jiggers not alleys ,didn't watch  a film but a flick or a fill-em,  and you went for bevvy not a drink, don't think I stopped laughing for a year ,'excuse the ramblings BobH.
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: duTch on 12.08. 2013 11:49


 
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By the way, "I" before "E" except after "S"
Just plain weird.....!!!

 Don't get me started either...heheh....
Muskie I didn't fail English, but I didn't pass either...!

 I think I can comment on everyones stuff but no time just now, but will a some stage- it's all very entertaining though
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: A10Boy on 12.08. 2013 17:28
Thing is, no-one can help regional accents, it's part of the language. But they can at least try to use the correct words. There is a difference between Free and Three, Thing and Think - moan moan...... What about when you take the wife to a restaurant after serving the food the waiter returns to ask "Is everyfinkalright wiv your meal?" or "Do you want anyfinkelse?" What TF is that all about?
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: Greybeard on 12.08. 2013 19:48
'Bought' is not the same word as 'brought'.

Why is something that is free always described as 'for free'? What's wrong with either 'free' or 'for nothing'?

'Lent' and 'borrowed' get interchanged.
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: bsa-bill on 12.08. 2013 20:53
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"I" before "E" except after "S"
never was taught that one it was always "I" before "E" except after "C"  with as has been said exceptions

quite agree wiv the cafe comments, one near me had a manageress who would inquire " Youse ones alright there" and today I got the "you all right there mate " treatment from of all places Marks and Spencers - think there could be to old gents turning in their graves
Title: Re: Babel
Post by: morris on 12.08. 2013 22:36
I think it's all done on purpose, to confuse us foreigners. By the time we think we got the hang of it, we discover we're behind again *smile*