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Title: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 22.08. 2014 23:26
Got the plunger's frame back from the painters today... *good3*
Hinted the wife that she won't be seeing much of me the forthcoming weeks. Tried to persuade her to bring the food to the shed, but she responded with "what do you like, peanuts or bananas?"... What the hell does she mean by that? *dunno*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 21.09. 2014 21:37
Update on the progress. Still loads of fun to come....
Been to a bikejumble today. Picked up loads of spares. Means more time spent in the shed. Hurray! *whistle*
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Post by: Greybeard on 21.09. 2014 22:17
Ooh, that picture brings back happy memories of my own plunger rebuild; everything lovely and new!
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Post by: duTch on 21.09. 2014 23:52

 Peanuts and  bananas go well together.... *smile*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Greybeard on 22.09. 2014 11:02

 Peanuts and  bananas go well together.... *smile*
Eh? *conf*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 27.09. 2014 17:24
Great. I'll probably start to reassembly my engine this week.
Could not work, but I think is easier export the whole bike. lol.

Have fun and keep updating.

Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 26.10. 2014 22:05
Update;
Forks are on with new stanchions, bushes etc.
Maggy rebuilt by Brightspark. Back on the bike
Rebuilt the plunger springs, then had to take 'em apart again because both wheel brackets where bent to the left. No way of getting the wheel shaft through the brake/chainwheel unit. This explains why I found a spacer under the right unit's spring when I dismantled them. PO probably tried to lower one side by adding a spacer in order to get the wheel shaft through, hence running the bike with the wheel tilted *doh* Might be explained by the fact that the bike spent some time of it's life pulling a side car?
Mounted the light unit and speedo (what a bugga to get the speedo in the rubber... *problem*)
Tried the new wiring loom (needs to be modified a bit to fit)
Still to do;
Rebuild the wheels, bolt saddle and all the tinware on (some smaller parts still need to be sprayed) and then it's...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y_wUu99E7M&gl=BE
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Greybeard on 26.10. 2014 22:55
Mounted the light unit and speedo (what a bugga to get the speedo in the rubber... *problem*)

When I rebuilt my '55 plunger machine, (with the cowpat style headlamp cowl) I damaged my new speedo rubber while struggling to get the speedo in. Someone here wrote up the best way to do this and I've recently renewed the rubber following their advice and found it quite easy. I lubricated the rubber with a suitable grease, (bought from a bicycle shop), put the rubber in the headlamp cowl and then pushed the speedo into the rubber up to the bezel. I made a tool by grinding the sharpness off the tip of a small screwdriver and bent the last 1/4" to 90° so the flat part is horizontal, when the tool is vertical. Lightly press the speedo down against the rubber and using the 'L' shaped tool carefully work around the rubber easing it up over the bezel lip.
If you've greased the rubber you can rotate the speedo if it's not quite straight. I hope this makes sense.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 27.10. 2014 20:13
When I rebuilt my '55 plunger machine, (with the cowpat style headlamp cowl) I damaged my new speedo rubber while struggling to get the speedo in.
Been there to Graybeard. I also knackered a rubber before understanding that there is only one way to get the speedo in and that's the way you explain.
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Post by: Pim on 27.10. 2014 22:45
Wow, every thing looks so clean an neat!
I'm drooling all over the place here! *loveit*

Keep the updates coming!
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: duTch on 28.10. 2014 00:48

 
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This explains why I found a spacer under the right unit's spring when I dismantled them.

 There 'should' be a spacer in each side about ~1/4" thick...- not sure what it does or any advantage, maybe depending if they're under the load or the rebound springs to change the ride height or either spring preload....?
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 28.10. 2014 08:16
There 'should' be a spacer in each side about ~1/4" thick...
I should have been more precise duTch. There was an "extra" spacer on the right side which wasn't in the parts book and which looked like being filed out of a thick washer or something. I couldn't see why it was there as both springs where exactly the same length, and after reassembling leaving the extra spacer out, I measured everything I could possibly measure and all was exactly the same both sides until I tried to pass the wheel shaft...
The brackets where only slightly bent but just enough to make the shaft point about 5° upwards, and the chainwheel/brake assembly about 5° downwards
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 06.12. 2014 21:42
Latest update;
Plunger springs on and wheel brackets are straight now. Wheel shaft goes in and out with one hand
Rear brake, pedal and rod installed. Modified the pedal a bit so it rests against the footrest, swingarm style.
Installed the wiring loom.
Battery carrier and oil tank on
Wheel hubs to the painters and back, waiting for a set of rims and spokes from CWC (yes, going to try the black art of wheel building. Fingers crossed...)
Tomorrow morning there's a bikejumble nearby. Going to get myself some early Christmas presents... *smile*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: RichardL on 06.12. 2014 22:59
Wozza,

Looking great!

As I said earlier today, I have to screw up everything at least once to learn it. I can't say with complete honesty that I learned wheel building to a trustable level, but I can offer a small warning for your work, in advance. When I tried to do my wheels with QD hubs, my tendency was to do too much adjustment by tightening and not enough by balancing loosening  with tightening. Before I knew it I had splayed out the crinkles to a noticeable extent. After disassembly, I managed to set the crinkles back in position, but the appearance of the just-chromed hub was not too good after that. A new hub only cost about $20 (in 2005), but I had to pay for chrome a second time.

Richard L.
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Post by: WozzA on 07.12. 2014 07:23
 *conf2*  dont blame me....  I didn't do it...   *lol*   *good3*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: duTch on 07.12. 2014 09:12

 *smile* *smile* *smile*

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*conf2*  dont blame me....  I didn't do it...   *lol*   *good3*
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Wozza,

Looking great!

As I said earlier today, I have to screw up everything at least once

 *smile* *smile* *smile*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: bsa-bill on 07.12. 2014 17:20
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(yes, going to try the black art of wheel building. Fingers crossed...)

Front wheel can be trued in the forks, back wheel in the swinging arm if it's off the bike - however I just purchased this
 from http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyondfashion-Professional-Motorcycle-Balancer-Balancing/dp/B00MFIRDAA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_kh_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0RTT12G3GXJMDBGP2RDB (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyondfashion-Professional-Motorcycle-Balancer-Balancing/dp/B00MFIRDAA/ref=pd_sim_sbs_kh_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0RTT12G3GXJMDBGP2RDB) might be postage to pay outside UK, I'm pretty happy with it
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Post by: muskrat on 07.12. 2014 19:22
 They are very handy. I made my own and used it to balance the A65 crankshaft.
Cheers
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Post by: bsa-bill on 07.12. 2014 19:31
Should have included the price £24.99 delivered
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 08.12. 2014 19:25
Thanks for the picture Bill. Hope you don't mind I nicked it? (the picture that is... no reason to run to the shed in a hurry to see if it's still there *smile* And if it ain't there anymore, it sure wasn't me!!! Honest gov')

Got some steel offcuts lying around doing nothing so going to give it a try and knock something together on the basis of your picture. Have to wait a couple of weeks for the rims anyway, so got some spare time now.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: bsa-bill on 08.12. 2014 20:42
Feel Free morris, I've just come up from the shed to give the rear brake plate it's last coat and it cold enough out there to freeze a proverbial Withches t**, so not going out again tonight, tomorrow tho I'll take some measurements and post them and maybe a pic of the roller bits
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 08.12. 2014 21:04
Thanks Bill. As I said, no hurry.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: RichardL on 08.12. 2014 21:18
Zero $ and no ₤!

Notice the neat and tidy work area. Also notice the gauging pin (from all-threat rod) sticking through the far timber and pointing at the far side of the rim.

Richard L.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 08.12. 2014 21:30
Quick Richard, get it patented before someone steals your idea *wink2*
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Post by: Topdad on 09.12. 2014 10:30
Blimey Richard , all shite and brinney , found a use for some more spare timber, Cheers Bobh
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Post by: RichardL on 09.12. 2014 13:17
Bob,

The history of chrome hubs (and, for that matter, chrome timing and primary covers) on my bike goes back to the mid-70's when chrome was affordable and there were many good platers in Los Angeles. In '75, the bike was old, but not classic, so no pressure for originality.

Richard L.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: bsa-bill on 09.12. 2014 13:30
Looks great to me Richard ( the wheel that is) I like a bit of bling mind you.

only thing that puzzle a bit is why you want to use it in a wheelbarrow  *smile* (only joking )

just noticed the drill chuck, that's a bit of serious lateral thinking my man
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Topdad on 10.12. 2014 10:57
Good eyes Bill  *yeah* Richard once you've dismantled the " wheel barrow " would that chuck fit my Bosch drill ?,thats if you don't need it of course  *lol* seriously Richard looks great, I've gone for the traditional BSA finish , 1/16th of an inch of  chaingrease , at least it stops the rust , regards Bob.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 22.01. 2015 22:42
And the fun continues...
Received a nice package from CWC containing two stainless rims and two sets of stainless spokes. Nice bunch of people. Good quality. Worth recommending.
Constructed a wheel balancing thing from some leftover metal and next weekend will be dedicated to wheel building.
Fingers crossed... (or should I say "spokes crossed")
In the mean time finished the wiring, throttle and choke cables and put some bodywork on. Wasn't happy with the look of the handlebar so ordered an ABM superbike handlebar at a modern bike shop. It's a bit wider and a tad bit higher than the standard handlebars, and looks great (I find)
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Post by: terryg on 24.01. 2015 08:24
Watch out for the weld when trueing up. My CWC st/st rims are v good but, unsurprisingly, not perfect at the joint.
The spokes were a joy to fit. Double butted and they look good on the bike.

I was v pleased with CWC's quality overall.

Your stand should make lacing and trueing easier than using the frame and forks, which is what I did. Although adjusting the offset was made easier.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 01.02. 2015 22:15
Front wheel ready. All went extremely well. Got a maximum runout of 0,15 mm all around  *beer*
As terryg mentioned, the weld behaved a bit weird. Apart from that, no problem.
Now for the rear...
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Post by: WozzA on 28.02. 2015 13:40
I was in at Modak today & noticed Dave was building up a wheel in his 60's Japanese jig..
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 09.06. 2015 21:51
Well well, my my...
Some shots from after it's maidentrip.
Have a feeling there's bags of fun to come...
Many thanks for all help and encouraging words  *thanks*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Greybeard on 09.06. 2015 23:21
Fabulous bike!

When my fuel tank came back from the platers it was soooo lovely that I was very tempted to leave it unpainted like yours but by that time I had decided that I wanted originality.

Sorry to be a PIB but your front brake needs attention; the operating lever is already well past 90° before it is operated. I found with mine that you can put the lever on with either side facing outwards. If I remember correctly the shaft has four flats and the lever has eight, (might be other way round) but reversing the lever gives another set of positions, (bit like a vernier coupling)  This appears to be a design feature to allow a wider range of locations.
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Post by: WozzA on 10.06. 2015 00:16
 *loveit*  She looks lovely Morris..  you should be very proud of a job well done..   *wink2*
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Post by: Topdad on 10.06. 2015 11:15
Morris , what a clever devil you are !! she's a real credit to you and I hope you have many miles/years of enjoyment . I take it the BSA smile is well set on your moniker after just 1 ride  *smile* *smile* *wink2*Best of luck Bob.
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Post by: duTch on 10.06. 2015 11:50

 Nice one Morris- of it goes as good as it looks, you'll be a "million miles away" in no time and probably go hoarse singin' ....First ride after my rebuild, I went up the road- and a bit more- and a bit more. .... Next thing I realized I'd done a forty mile blockie... *smile*
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Post by: a10gf on 10.06. 2015 13:55
Great looking. Congrats.
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Post by: madsens on 10.06. 2015 13:59
 *respect* *respect* :-\ *respect* *respect* *yeah*
look absolutely great!

rgds
Joergen
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: morris on 10.06. 2015 23:14
Thanks lads, you're making me blush... *red*
Just got back from a 50 mile round trip. It's such a pleasure to ride. It's got a completely different feel compared to the SA. Much more relaxed. I'm a bit reluctant to say this, but I think I'm gonna prefer the plunger over the SA...
Regarding the fuel tank, I'll have it painted after summer. Want to get some miles on it first. Also haven't decided about the pattern yet.
I had a bit of an issue with the seller (it's an Indian tank I got from ebay) which made that I got it later than expected. Wrong tank, ok my fault, sent it back, then the seller said it came back damaged which he wanted me to pay for, I refused etc, etc...  *angry* *problem* *problem*
In the end I got the right tank, but I'm not so happy with the quality. The lugs seem to be welded on by a 5 year old and are badly aligned so had a lot of grinding and fettling to do to make it sit straight. Chrome seems to be good though.
I also noticed the angle of the front brake lever, tried some different positions but couldn't get a better one so decided to leave it for the time being. Braking is good, so I'll wait until I need to change the shoes to tackle that.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: duTch on 11.06. 2015 01:42

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but I think I'm gonna prefer the plunger over the SA...

  *shh* ssssshh...they'll all want one...!  *whistle*
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: Topdad on 12.06. 2015 11:32
Hi Morris, re the brake lever angle. I had the same , good braking but wrong angle  ,after checking the linings were ok I had a new cable made up approx. 1and qtr inch longer this allowed me to drop the brake arm and with handlebar and brake adjuster improved the braking no end. Now 4 yrs later getting to the point where new linings are required. Enjoy the bike ,Bob
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Post by: Greybeard on 12.06. 2015 11:39
Hi Morris, re the brake lever angle. I had the same , good braking but wrong angle  ,after checking the linings were ok I had a new cable made up approx. 1and qtr inch longer this allowed me to drop the brake arm and with handlebar and brake adjuster improved the braking no end. Now 4 yrs later getting to the point where new linings are required. Enjoy the bike ,Bob

In case it's not obvious, making a cable with both outer and inner longer will make no difference to the range of movement. You need to make a longer or shorter inner or a longer or shorter outer to change the range of movement. I know this from many years of bicycle maintenance.  *work*
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Post by: Topdad on 15.06. 2015 16:02
Hi Morris and GB , yes you are correct I'd forgotten that ,Dave the guy who did this for me, used the original outer and lengthened the inner but it's still a cracking front brake ,cheers Bob.
Title: Re: Let The Fun Begin!
Post by: nimrod650 on 18.06. 2015 18:50
Mounted the light unit and speedo (what a bugga to get the speedo in the rubber... *problem*)

When I rebuilt my '55 plunger machine, (with the cowpat style headlamp cowl) I damaged my new speedo rubber while struggling to get the speedo in. Someone here wrote up the best way to do this and I've recently renewed the rubber following their advice and found it quite easy. I lubricated the rubber with a suitable grease, (bought from a bicycle shop), put the rubber in the headlamp cowl and then pushed the speedo into the rubber up to the bezel. I made a tool by grinding the sharpness off the tip of a small screwdriver and bent the last 1/4" to 90° so the flat part is horizontal, when the tool is vertical. Lightly press the speedo down against the rubber and using the 'L' shaped tool carefully work around the rubber easing it up over the bezel lip.
If you've greased the rubber you can rotate the speedo if it's not quite straight. I hope this makes sense.
washing up liquid works fine