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Title: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 29.08. 2014 18:06
Hey guys, I'm thinking about to move to England.

Not for me, but my BSA miss home. :)

Seriously, I can't handle this place anymore. We thought about Germany but if my english is bad, my german is zero.
We always love England, maybe its a possibility. There's a few problems. How to send my stuff (like my motorcycle and maybe one car) but it's not the real problem, the problem is about houses. We have 2 Dobermanns who live outside at the garden.
Seems like the dogs used to live inside the houses by the wheater or lack of space.

The prices is also a problem, but I know with a few tips I can found something great to rent and live.

Well... that's it... just sharing some thoughts... :)


Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Greybeard on 29.08. 2014 18:41
Good luck! *smiley4*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: a10gf on 30.08. 2014 13:32
First do much research, everything form restrictions regarding dogs to property\rent prices. Europe can be difficult and expensive. If one could get a job first that would make a difference, and plan any permanent moving afterwards. Use the internet and try to find out what kind of skills and work experience the different countries may look for. But already many people out of work in Europe.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 30.08. 2014 17:22
Yes, we want to move with a job already. Is easier move to Germany but only my wife speak german.
Some country where I can use english is better. The US is much more difficult because we need a lot of money to get an green card. To europe is easier but expensive.

We have a really good life here, a nice house with a big garden, cars, motorcycles... our place is near of everything by foot.
But we don't have security. Has been a long time since we stopped to hang out at night afraid of robbery.

At the end of the last year, at day 22, coming back to home from a lovely night with friends, almost 10 blocks from home we've been robbed. The bandits hit us with a car (we were in only one motorcycle) we came to ground and when we are recovering, thinking it was an accident, they announced the robbery. The christmas and new year was in bed recovering the harms in our feet and knees. So we don't want this anymore. If we want raise kids or have a quiet life, we need to go away.

São Paulo is impossible, and the other cities also. We can go to inland, but the people behavior is still the same. Most of people don't have respect, think only in themselves, don't care about the city cleaness or other people.

Well, that´s a little picture of the reasons.
Sorry about the emotional outburst.  *sad*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: a10gf on 30.08. 2014 19:18
Can't help with any move, but if things like this

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10 blocks from home we've been robbed. The bandits hit us with a car (we were in only one motorcycle)
*eek*  *eek*  *eek*

is becoming some norm, gives a real good understanding as to why you want to try another (better) country!
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: RichardL on 30.08. 2014 20:23
Daniel,

I can't speak for the INS, but you're welcome here, as far as I'm cocerned.

Richard L.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: scotty on 30.08. 2014 21:25
.....and if the UK or USA doesn't work out ,well, why not consider coming to Canada  *smile*

S
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: morris on 30.08. 2014 21:58
Hi Daniel, can't speak for the UK but in Belgium we have a shortage of technical people like builders, mechanical engineers, electricians, plumbers, welders, roadworkers etc... If you are skilled in one of those area's, it shouldn't be to difficult to get a job.
Have you already checked at an embassy? They can provide you all information regarding immigration. EU country's all have more or less the same rules when it comes to migration. Within the EU there is a free labour market so once you have found a job and got settled in one country, you can move and work in whatever country you like.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: muskrat on 30.08. 2014 22:05
Failing all that there's plenty of room over here and you get to keep the same seasons and weather.
Cheers
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: morris on 30.08. 2014 22:29
you get to keep the same seasons and weather.

Now that should be boring... *sleepy* *smile*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: trevinoz on 30.08. 2014 22:42
Never boring here, Morris!
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: morris on 30.08. 2014 23:00
Never boring here, Morris!
Right. Thanks. That's the final drop(!). Monday I'm packing and moving to Oz...
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 31.08. 2014 00:31
hi guys/D.T. you could do a lot worse than Aussie. Australia/New Zealand the last horizons, cheers
  p.s. shame about the world cup. 
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 31.08. 2014 01:31
Hey everybody, thank you very much.


I can't speak for the INS, but you're welcome here, as far as I'm cocerned.


Richard, it's OK with the INS if I have U$500.000,00 to apply for an Green Card. But I haven't. (Yes, I'm trying the lottery but Isn't work so far)

.....and if the UK or USA doesn't work out ,well, why not consider coming to Canada  *smile*


Scotty, I have considered Canada. Everything is fine there but the wheater. Here is so hot and Canada is SO SO COLD! :-\

Hi Daniel, can't speak for the UK but in Belgium we have a shortage of technical people like builders...


Morris, but in Belgium I gonna have the language problem, don't I?
My wife have German citzenship and that's why is easier go to UE.
Probably we gonna to Germany / London in november and I'm thinking about rent a car and make a little trip trought Belgium. I'm gonna see with other eyes the country and everything.

Failing all that there's plenty of room over here and you get to keep the same seasons and weather.

Muskrat, Trevinoz and Kiwipom...
Yes.... Australia is an lovely option. Specially by the weather. I'm also considering but It's so far from almost everything... I mean, seems to be, I don't know exactly. In Europe you can get your car and ride across 4 diferent countries in some hours. But ok, Brazil is really big, If we want go by car to other country, the nearest from São Paulo is Paraguay after 1.100Km. Considering the distances between (example) São Paulo - London or Sidney - London, will be the same.

Well, there's a lot to thing about and consider. But thanks everybody, I enjoyed a lot reading the suggestions.

  p.s. shame about the world cup. 

Yes, everybody love this thing here. I'm gonna tell you, I haven't watched one single game. I was cleaning my house when the game with germany was happening and my wife says: It's very quiet outside there, not a single goal yet? Let me check...
When she turn on the TV It was 3 x 0, and right away comes the 4th.
Then I started to watch and laugh a lot.   *lol*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: scotty on 31.08. 2014 02:10
Daniel

No igloos here on the south west coast of Canada....same weather as the UK really...unless you go up the mountains of course



Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: morris on 31.08. 2014 10:34
Morris, but in Belgium I gonna have the language problem, don't I?
Not entirely. Eastern part of Belgium is German speaking, southern part speaks French, and most people in the Dutch speaking north-western part also speak some English. You can drive for an hour and come across 3 different languages.
Anyway, you're welcome any time.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: duTch on 31.08. 2014 14:13

 I thought most people in Europe speak English anyway, at least the ones who come here do and generally better than most of the locals..... *conf*

 uN-Zudd would be a good choice, heaps of space, there must be only about six people left there, and they all have A 10/7's.. *smile*

 
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: a10gf on 31.08. 2014 14:22
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there must be only about six people left there, and they all have A 10/7's..
lol+++
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 31.08. 2014 22:10

hi guys, yes Dutch it is pretty quiet here, not much space compared to Aussie. About 4.5 million here now all we need is some more jobs for them all. Kiwis keep going to Aus in droves but a lot are coming back now as the Aussie economy has slowed. We have an election coming up on the 20th so may get better here if we get rid of the National Party.  Me and mine holiday up to the Sunshine coast every year for a couple of weeks, great weather, and we love your `fush and chups` lol, cheers
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 01.09. 2014 13:26
Australia and New Zealand could be a good choice indeed. Not only by the weather, but the flora and fauna also.

My father in law uses to say that Australia is the Brazil that worked.

You guys have make me think about AU and NZ again...

But again, the only place where we can grab our bags ang go is the UE.
To AU we need visa also. But probably is much less dificult then USA.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Resto-Rob on 01.09. 2014 15:28
Heres my ten cents worth....
Speaking as a New Zealander now living in Austria (not Australia!) the language thing isnt as bad as people think.
I moved to Austria without knowing a word of German and i have done just fine :)
Apparently it is even easier in Germany as there are more english speakers there?!
Of course, i speak German now... Not perfectly but enough to get by ;)
There are plenty of jobs here if you are qualified and living is cheaper then in NZ or OZ.
The very reason i left NZ, i couldnt afford to live there anymore.  The cost of living is crazy expensive!!
The weather is here something else..... But then again you get weather everywhere?! ;)  still better then the damp winters and humid summers of NZ....
If i wasnt so settled here i would go back to Canada! I lived in Calgary for a while, I love it there and the cold is not sooo bad.....
So in conclusion, EU is great and dont fret about the language barrier as long as you are open to learn :)
Canada is also awesome,just invest in a good down jacket! :)
Being a Kiwi i cant really comment on Oz ;) but sadly better there then my homeland :( dont get me wrong, i love NZ! Just wouldnt live there.....
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: a10gf on 01.09. 2014 18:36
Daniel Toro (DT) wrote:
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My father in law uses to say that Australia is the Brazil that worked.
*smile*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: WozzA on 01.09. 2014 23:28
as far as riding motorcycles go I'd pick Oz...   because you can ride all year round...
I'd never even seen snow up close until last year when we went to Canada in their summer..  *eek*
saying that getting a job may be another thing..   *????*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: duTch on 02.09. 2014 10:08

 Well Kiwipom, I'm not so clued up on your politics, but 4.5 Million what....? possums..??
Can't be that many people there, they're all here luggin scaffold and stuff... *conf*

 I officially live at the Sunny Coast, but don't go home often- yea should give a holla next lap and I'll buy you a beer or two...am only a hour or so away...depending on my mood swings.....??
 Best Foush (never be able to say as bad as you), I ever did was at the fisho on Mooloolaba spit - King Snapper.!!!

 geez Wozza, only time I've seen snow was on the way back from Mullburn in '99 at
Kosciuszko (had to research how to spell that) , needed to p***, so did the '..watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat the yellow snow', check.....!!
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 02.09. 2014 21:44
hi guys, Resto-Rob, i would be interested to know what part of N.Z. you found to expensive to live can`t believe that there is a lot of difference anywhere these days. Dutch, will be in Maloolaba in November for a week or so and would be glad to catch up for a beer,cheers 
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 04.09. 2014 01:11
the language thing isnt as bad as people think.
I moved to Austria without knowing a word of German and i have done just fine :) /
So in conclusion, EU is great and dont fret about the language barrier as long as you are open to learn :)

Thank you Rob. Old dogs CAN learn new tricks, right?  *smile*
We always want to make something confortable for ourselves but the real challenge is make something terribly new.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Kickaha on 04.09. 2014 11:49
The very reason i left NZ, i couldnt afford to live there anymore.  The cost of living is crazy expensive!!
You must live in a different NZ than I do
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Resto-Rob on 04.09. 2014 18:42
DT, you sure can teach an old dog new tricks :)  the most important thing is that you try.  I found people to be helpful and forgiving when you at least make an effort and show respect for their culture.  I can highly recommend the German Course by Micheal Thomas.  Its all on CD or MP3 and is absolutely brilliant!  I learnt way more by this method then by sitting in a classroom...
Im not interested in upsetting my fellow kiwis and only offer advise based on my own life experience.  I lived in many places in NZ both in the North and South Island... and it is undoubtedly one of the most beautiful countries (landscape wise) in the world but i dont regret leaving and unless i win the lottery i wouldnt move back.  For my family and i life is just a lot better and easier in Austria :)  for example, we could never afford to buy a house in NZ.  Within 2 years of moving we own a large house just outside the gorgeous city of Salzburg. 
Again, this is my own experience.  Maybe i just got lucky?!
All the best with your decision and remember that nothing worth doing will ever be easy :)
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 09.09. 2014 20:13
German Course by Micheal Thomas.

Lol.... I've been thinking about food these days and have read "German Cuisine by Michael Thomas".
I thought something strange, how something about cuisine will help me with languages?
Ok, food is universal, but like that?

Just after googled (and finding odd the results) that I've realized that you have wrote COURSE.  *smile* *smile* *smile*

But it's true, I've already listened the audio samples and seems to be very easy. Thank you.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: duTch on 09.09. 2014 21:53

 I say you can't go wrong with food- (and bevvies) at least you won't go hungry.... *conf*

I came third in class for German eighth grade- with a whopping 43%..... *smile*

  Kiwi-P.... feel free to give me a holla when you're in Moo'ba, I'm never too sure what I'll be doing, see how it pans out.... *beer*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: morris on 09.09. 2014 22:36
give me a holla when you're in Moo'ba

Bet that's Aussie slang for Fish & chips..... *dunno*
Edit; Kiwi slang of course!
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 09.09. 2014 22:59
hi guys/Morris, (Bet that's Aussie slang for Fish & chips)
Edit; Kiwi slang of course!
 It`s Dutch taking the mick out of the way Kiwi`s pronounce the i in fish or any other word, sounds like a ou. Not sure how the Aussie`s say it but the Kiwi`s certainly have a way with the English language,cheers
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 09.09. 2014 23:13
hi, guys, don`t know about the food but the bevvies are the best.  After  years as a young fella in London  and a frequent visitor to the `Beer Cellars` and other places, i can vouch for a lager called `Dortmunder` sunk a few of them. Dutch, i will be in Moo`ba on the 19-26 Nov in the `Mantra` and i know what i will be doing, not much, be good to catch up,cheers   
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: olev on 10.09. 2014 11:40
When we did Berlin last year, I got by with ' un gross doonkle, dunke.'
After you have had 6 or 7 you need to say 'nein, ich bin kaput'
Fabulous place.
cheers
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 16.09. 2014 04:10
Ok, let's start an food topic.  *smile*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: muskrat on 16.09. 2014 06:21
Best dogs eye (pie) and beer down here  *smile*.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Brian on 16.09. 2014 07:01
A dogs eye or also known as a mystery bag.

Next christmas when you are about to eat one of those small mince pies just think  "dead flies grave yard" and see if you still have an apetite !
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: duTch on 16.09. 2014 09:34
http://www.a7a10.net/forum/Smileys/default/icon_exclaim.gif
 ''Holla'' in my dictionary, is 'an exclamation to someone at a distance, in order to call attention or in answer'...." Moo'ba " is a lazy/easy/local way of saying 'Mooloolabah'

 Yea can do what you like with the dogs eyes....and maggot bags...... *ex*

K-P., I'll track down a Mantra..... *????*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Topdad on 16.09. 2014 12:47
Brian, over here that would be an eccles cake = dead flys graveyard . BobH
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: chaterlea25 on 16.09. 2014 19:50
HI
In Cork, its known as "Donkeys Gudge"  !!!!!!!!

LOL
John
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: bsa-bill on 16.09. 2014 20:31
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"dead flies grave yard"
Eccles cake - Delicious, takes more than a graphic description to put me off, although I'm not sure I could face a bag of Willocks these days (Winkles I think in more educated circles), got a bagful for a tanner as we came out of school and ate them on the bus, used to pick them out of their shells with a pin, looked like a bogie, and the sand used to keep your teeth sharp
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: kiwipom on 16.09. 2014 21:00
hi guys, Hey Dutch hope those `custard apples and mangos are in season in nov, we love those, cheers
 p.s. what is that flag of yours?
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Kickaha on 16.09. 2014 21:33
p.s. what is that flag of yours?
It is the Eureka stockade flag
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: duTch on 16.09. 2014 22:02

 
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It is the Eureka stockade flag

 Well, that's what is what remains of the actual original....(souvenir hunters).... *conf*

 It ended up there, because put it at the bottom didn't work- keep meaning to do something about that...
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: WozzA on 16.09. 2014 23:27
After a night on the turps, *beer* many years ago, a mate & I decided to ride from
100kms North of Melbourne to Adelaide for a Pie Floater...  *eek*
rode the 1st 800Kms with a hang over & returned the next day feeling crook from the floater..
Worst bloody thing I've ever eaten...   *countdown*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Greybeard on 17.09. 2014 09:54
...I decided to ride from 100kms North of Melbourne to Adelaide for a Pie Floater...  *eek*
...Worst bloody thing I've ever eaten...   *countdown*

I needed to Google 'Pie Floater' cos it sounds like something you might find in a sewage works.
After looking at this picture; http://goo.gl/SDIrm1 I still think it looks like something you really wouldn't want to eat!!  :-\
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Topdad on 17.09. 2014 10:15
Jez Wozza , how could you eat that after a night on the p***, I'm with Graybeard talk about pebbledash the dalton or what ??? I thought a few of the regional favorites around here were bad , mars bars battered and deep fried , the healthy pie - not thrown in the fat  etc but that takes the prize, BobH.
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: WozzA on 17.09. 2014 13:13
Oh to be young & foolish again...   *smile*
The funny thing is that MOST South Australians think their wonderful..
The hangover was only a throbbing head....  the ride home was worse with a pain in the guts & many toilet stops..  *countdown*   ( I'm blaming the floater )
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: RichardL on 17.09. 2014 13:35
I didn't cook that.   *smile*
Title: Re: Moving to England?
Post by: Daniel Toro (DT) on 22.12. 2014 18:26
Just updating... we've decided for England.

We've been in some cities in november and probably I'll live in Guildford or surrounds.

That's it, a huge step.    *help*