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Title: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Topdad on 23.04. 2015 16:41
As a result of the rear wheel blowout I had last night its brought l this to the forefront of my mind. 3 questions which I'd like your thoughts on.
I've got AVON 350X 19 on the rear end (3.25 avon roadmaster  on front )both have plenty of tread but is 8 yrs old both       on its 3 rd tube , ,felt they tubes,should be changed don't know if they deteriorate but felt they would.  I like the idea of more rubber on the rear end particularly now I'll be riding with a pillion .
First question does anyone know how the bike would respond to keeping the existing front but using the Mitras 400x 19 on the back .question 2 ,  That's assuming that the front isn't past it being 8 yrs old when is a tyre past it's user date   
 question 3 , are there any EFECTIVE self sealing fluids  available for tubed tyres ,thanks for your help, Bobh
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: bsa-bill on 23.04. 2015 17:28
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are there any EFECTIVE self sealing fluids  available for tubed tyres ,thanks for your help, Bobh

quite a few I think, never used one except to fix a wheel barrow wheel, it worked for about a month.
Now the thing I've heard is that once it's in your tyre or tube, if it has to do it's job then that's the end of your tyre/tube as the result is a sticky mess.
This is hearsay as far as I'm concerned as I've no experience, but bet someone here has
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Triton Thrasher on 23.04. 2015 18:10
I'd expect better steering with 3.50 section rear, than 4.00.

3.50 is not "too small" for carrying a pillion.

Inflate to around 30 psi.

8 years might be a bit old for tyres.
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Johnny J on 23.04. 2015 18:17
Don't think self sealing fluids are made to work properly in tubes, only tubeless tires..
The sealing area (thickness) of a tube is only a fraction of a tire and they might even stick together when it sips out at start.
But I'm just guessing...:-)
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: muskrat on 23.04. 2015 20:48
8 years would be well past their use by date in my books.
You probably won't notice much difference going from 3.50 to 4.00 just a tad more counter steering.
I have never had much luck with puncture repair stuff in tubes. And adding 1/2 pound of unsprung weight not to mention low speed imbalance doesn't sound good to me.
Cheers
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: stu.andrews on 24.04. 2015 09:28
A sealant such as Punctureseal, previously known as Ultraseal, will not seal tubed tyres. What it will normally do in event of a puncture, is to give a controlled deflation. In other words, the tyre will deflate but will probably give you time to stop under control.
I have no connection with Puncturesafe, although have used it satisfactorily for many years with tubeless tyres, & use it in all my tubeless tyred bikes.
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Topdad on 24.04. 2015 10:25
Many thanks everyone, from this obvious they are past it so new ones asap re the sealant it is what I had heard and with this info will think about it ,from that experience 2 nights ago I'd think even a couple of secs extra control can make the difference but been lax about them, before I've always done such a high mileage that the tyre never got a chance to get old whereas over the past few years the mileage as been very low.
Since the 400 rear seems a no go what about for some suggestions for modern replacements, it would be a great help, cheers Bobh.
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: muskrat on 24.04. 2015 10:46
I've got Avon AM26's on both of mine. 100/90/19 front and back on the plunger. 100/90/19 front 110/90/18 rear on the cafe. Luv'em.
Cheers
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: bsa-bill on 24.04. 2015 11:14
I've got Avon AM26 on the rear of the RGF, love it
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: jachenbach on 17.05. 2015 16:00
Any time I have to change a tire with liquid sealant installed, whether  tube or tubeless (and as others have stated, it doesn't really work with tubes) the customer is charged an extra 15 minutes labor for the cleanup of the floor, wall, tire machine, etc. Absolutely hate this stuff, and "balance beads" are not much better.
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Topdad on 20.05. 2015 11:15
Hi Gents, many thanks for all info on this. I've finally bitten the bullet and settled on AM26's and also have found a source which may be helpful to others. A firm called "tyre tech" 08003579757-   got me a 100x90x 19 for £56 inc vat which I thought was a great price. With tubes x 2 and rim tapes total £98 del tomorrow.
Locally I was being quoted £87 just for the tyre AND 3 DAYS TO GET IT so glad I told him where to put it ! Hope this may be of help, regards BobH. *smiley4* oh ready to ride over the weekend yephee  *smile* *smile*
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: Rgs-Bill on 20.05. 2015 21:47
8 years would be well past their use by date in my books.
You probably won't notice much difference going from 3.50 to 4.00 just a tad more counter steering.
I have never had much luck with puncture repair stuff in tubes. And adding 1/2 pound of unsprung weight not to mention low speed imbalance doesn't sound good to me.
Cheers
 
                      I am with Musky, where is all the liquid sealer going to go inside the tire, except round and round. Or when at speed if it stays in one place from centrifugal forces, and what balance of the wheel and tire does it throw off ? ?
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: muskrat on 21.05. 2015 11:18
The imbalance would only be at low speed 0-30 or so, after that centrifugal force would even it out. Hard braking or acceleration (won't happen on our A's *whistle*) will upset it.
Cheers
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: taylor1960 on 21.05. 2015 20:09
Hi all I just got two new mists tyres 325/19 and a 350/19  this was recommended to me by the seller for my A10 the rear tyre looks skinny but my mate has the same size on his aerial 500 and says they work well hope this helps John  *smile*
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: taylor1960 on 21.05. 2015 20:19
Got these as a package on EBay £100 2 tyres 2 tubes 2 rimtapes and postage bargain or what  *eek*
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: petetherev on 29.05. 2015 15:17
Hello Taylor1960.  Can you give me a link to the E Bay seller of the tyres tubes etc. please. I need some for my TriBSA I'm rebuilding.

Thank you regards
Pete
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: taylor1960 on 18.06. 2015 16:46
Hi hope this helps I thought it was a good deal  eBay ref. 191400616185
Title: Re: new rear tyre and mixing makes of tyres.
Post by: petetherev on 30.06. 2015 20:40
Hi Taylor1960.  Thanks for the link, the listing has finished however.  I did get a good deal though, An Avon Speedmaster and an Avon SM with tubes and tapes for £116 thanks to a 20% offer I assume sponsored by E Bay. 

Thanks once again
Regards
Pete