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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #15 on: 24.09. 2025 11:43 »
Firstly they are not original and guess what, I dont care ! I use Paoli (BAP) taps on all my bikes, they dont leak, are not effected by modern fuel and are easy to turn on and off. I have a Moto Guzzi that is 42 years old with them fitted and they still work like new. Dont bother with thread tape, thats designed for water, use 569 (hydraulic sealant) loctite as Richard has suggested.

Are those genuine Paioli (BAP) taps?  The ones I've seen that are genuine have Paioli and Made in Italy stamped on them.  I recently cancelled an order with an Ebay seller as the listing stated 'Made in England' on them.  When I enquired, he said his supplier did not reveal the source of manufacturer.  When I pointed out that BAP taps are not made in the UK, but in Italy or India, he offered to cancel the order.

I would suspect that most taps are made either in India (BAP) or China (Wassell).

Can anyone recommend a supplier for a main tap (with tube), that isn't a piece of crap please!
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #16 on: 24.09. 2025 19:33 »
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Can anyone recommend a supplier for a main tap (with tube), that isn't a piece of crap please!

If you're not concerned with originality then I use Pingel taps 6211-BR, they are pricey though

https://pingelonline.com/motorcycle-fuel-valves/6211-br.asp

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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #17 on: 24.09. 2025 22:28 »
 After no success with corks sealing. I found gas ball valves, with home made levers work well.
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #18 on: 25.09. 2025 08:25 »
After no success with corks sealing. I found gas ball valves, with home made levers work well.

They flow a lot, shut off reliably, don’t leak, last a long time and are cheap.

Making a quaint lever sounds like a good project, by the way.

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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #19 on: 26.09. 2025 12:18 »
I've been making some enquires about British made taps as a few sellers seem to be claiming they're 'British made'.  After challenging one seller, he said their supplier doesn't supply information on source, another said they were 'imported - both declined to answer any further questions!!

However, one place did respond and say the taps they sell are British made and are manufactured by 'Velocette engineering'.  I've had a quick look online, and found a place that seems to sell 'genuine spares', but nothing on a specific company called Velocette engineering that claims to manufacture the taps.

I know you fellas are well connected, and some may own Velos - can you shed any light on this?

Would still like to set up a database of quality parts and spares that have been/are attested to by people on this forum.  We've all come across the Chinesium and Indianium that are not fit for purpose, but where do we go for good quality pattern parts that we can rely on?

In the past, I've used TMS and C&D for parts that seem to be ok.  CB also sells a good range of bits and pieces at competitive prices.  The biggest gamble is Ebay, although genuine used items can be fine.

With all our combined years of experience and fixing these bikes, surely there must be more extant, reputable sellers who will put their name to the stuff they sell??

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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #20 on: 26.09. 2025 21:32 »
That database would only be as good as people's personal experiences though.
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #21 on: 26.09. 2025 23:31 »
That database would only be as good as people's personal experiences though.
Many swear by Feked, while I wouldn't touch them ever again.

Mixed experiences with Feked.  What I don't like is they pull you in with ex VAT prices, then pile on the postage.  Four 1/4" ball nipples aren't bad for 96p each (inc VAT), it's the £4 odd postage that puts me off.

I don't get much from them these days, but what I have had has been reasonable up until now.
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #22 on: 27.09. 2025 07:16 »
velocetteonline.co.uk show a good range of petrol taps. No idea if they are UK made or not.
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #23 on: 29.09. 2025 09:13 »
 Back in the day garden machinery.....Suffolk Colt anyone? and British Seagull outboard engines used Ewarts type fuel taps. You can still get Seagull bits. Here's a link, chosen at random from a few others.

   https://www.sheridanmarine.com/product/british-seagull-outboard-fuel-tap

 But as with anything marine and specialised there is a premium to pay. Dunno how these compare with your average Chinesium offering.  These must be made of some precious metal!

 At this price level even the most neglected original tap is worth saving for the need of a new cork.  An in line filter takes care of the damaged or missing original gauze, and as it came fitted to a bike back in the day, an old tap should fit an original tank thread with no problem.

  https://www.sheridanmarine.com/product/british-seagull-outboard-metal-fuel-tap-overhaul-kit

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 PS Bought  temporary fuel tank, hang on a strap type.  Plastic moulding OK,  stiching on the strap pulled apart easily, tap is OFF when operating lever in line with the outlet, contrary to any other on/off lever in general use. Should have guessed, made in India.

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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #24 on: 29.09. 2025 12:26 »
Back in the day garden machinery.....Suffolk Colt anyone? and British Seagull outboard engines used Ewarts type fuel taps. You can still get Seagull bits. Here's a link, chosen at random from a few others.

   https://www.sheridanmarine.com/product/british-seagull-outboard-fuel-tap

 But as with anything marine and specialised there is a premium to pay. Dunno how these compare with your average Chinesium offering.  These must be made of some precious metal!

 At this price level even the most neglected original tap is worth saving for the need of a new cork.  An in line filter takes care of the damaged or missing original gauze, and as it came fitted to a bike back in the day, an old tap should fit an original tank thread with no problem.

  https://www.sheridanmarine.com/product/british-seagull-outboard-metal-fuel-tap-overhaul-kit

 Swarfy.

 PS Bought  temporary fuel tank, hang on a strap type.  Plastic moulding OK,  stiching on the strap pulled apart easily, tap is OFF when operating lever in line with the outlet, contrary to any other on/off lever in general use. Should have guessed, made in India.

  INDIUM.......  PAH!!

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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #25 on: 29.09. 2025 12:51 »
Maybe fine for those of us who don't ride everywhere with the throttle against the stop, eh TT. *whistle* :-:
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Re: Petrol tap to avoid
« Reply #26 on: 29.09. 2025 13:14 »
Maybe fine for those of us who don't ride everywhere with the throttle against the stop, eh TT. *whistle* :-:

It’s not about “everywhere.”

It has to be “Never ride with a big throttle opening anywhere at all,” if not enough petrol is getting through.