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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #15 on: 10.07. 2016 18:37 »
looked at tin of linklife i have had for 45yrs A FILTRATE PRODUCT MADE BY EDWARD BOOTH@SON LEEDS

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #16 on: 11.07. 2016 12:12 »
It would be the grandsons of Edward Booth by now  *smile*
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #17 on: 11.07. 2016 12:46 »
Have a look at "lunmad" on you tube. On one of his videos he shows the chain being cleaned in boiling wax then being hung up afterwards.
It's on his Triumph Bonneville but the same procedure for A10/A7 I'm sure.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #18 on: 11.07. 2016 15:16 »
I used to use Linklife years ago but with modern (& better) lubricants available now, are we not just making unnecessary work for ourselves? Aerosol chain lube, providing one lets it dry, is pretty resistant to "fling."
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #19 on: 12.07. 2016 09:41 »
It is not the fling that is the problem , that is just messy
The problem is getting lubricant inside the roller between the roller and the pin.
Aerosols will not do that, or rather they will but you just get a very tiny amount in there.
Aerosols are not designed to lubricate old style chains their principal job is to get some lube under the O rings to stop them tearing out.
The only way to get proper lubrication from a spray is to apply it the instant you get home from a very long ride i the dry so your chain is hot when it is applied and as it cools it sucks the lube inside the void created by the contracting air.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #20 on: 12.07. 2016 09:47 »
Good suggestion, I hadn't thought of that.

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #21 on: 12.07. 2016 14:15 »
What about hanging the chain up and heating it with a hot air gun then use the chain lube aerosol? The chain could be washed first to remove road grit.

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #22 on: 12.07. 2016 20:52 »
Well what a coincidence. I just came across this thread three hours after Linklifing my chain!
The wife was at home so I had to use the camping stove in th garage. Fishig a heavy rear chian out of a flimsy can of boiling oil balanced on a small camping stove. Just another adrenalin high from bike ownership ;)
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #23 on: 12.07. 2016 21:13 »
Fishing a heavy rear chian out of a flimsy can of boiling oil balanced on a small camping stove. Just another adrenalin high from bike ownership ;)

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #24 on: 13.07. 2016 09:05 »
What about hanging the chain up and heating it with a hot air gun then use the chain lube aerosol? The chain could be washed first to remove road grit.

That would work, sort of but try heating the entire chain and the important bit to get hot s the pins & rollers.

Way Way back a club member made me have a think about my chain mantenance.
Like everyone else. Saturday night I warmed up the engine, changed the oil , put a weight on the front then wiped the chain & dribbled some goo on it.
And like every one else Sunday morning I was greeted by a puddle of goo on the floor and after the first 10 minutes, all over me & the bike.
Well Rhett did things differently.
When he got back from the run, he flicked the bike onto the side stand, wipped the chain, sprayed some goo on it , ran it for a minute to distribute the goo, then stopped the wheel, and drained the oil.

I wondered about it over a beer or two then of course I had to conceede he had a much better method than me.
Not only was the chain hot, so the cooling chain sucked the chain goo in but the oil was a lot hotter that after 5 minutes idleing in the shed and the oil was also better mixed.
Doing this after the run meant the bike was ready for the next run & it only added 2-3 minutes to the tail end of a ride where as my method wasted a lot of fuel and took 3 times as long to do the job 1/2 as good.
So I changed my maintenance routines.
latter on I discovered Duckhams and the 3 chain method so maintanance time almost vanished.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #25 on: 13.07. 2016 09:16 »
Anyone got an idea how one could make a Link life type of mixture? What about simply melting some low temperature grease? Would the mixture need graphite or molybdenum or some other additive?

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #26 on: 14.07. 2016 12:21 »
This a formula used by ULTRA FAST a push bike chain lube.

The recipe for the UltraFast lube is surprisingly simple: 1lb of household paraffin wax, 5g of pure PTFE (Teflon) powder, and 1g of pure molybdenum disulfide (MoS2). The wax is melted at approximately 180°F, the powders are added in, and the ingredients are thoroughly mixed with some sort of agitator (Smith uses a common battery powered milk frother).

I used to use Lanolin grease and graphite powder
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #28 on: 15.07. 2016 08:47 »
I'm way too lazy to be thinking of taking the chain off between fitting it new and then taking it off when the very last of the adjustment has been taken up.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #29 on: 15.07. 2016 09:08 »
I'm way too lazy to be thinking of taking the chain off between fitting it new and then taking it off when the very last of the adjustment has been taken up.

By which time the secondary drive sprocket is worn out so you have to pull the primary cover off then remove the clutch to get to the sprocket.
Comparred to undo the con link, hook up your second chain, pull it through & reconnect.

I know which one I would rather be doing and which one costs a lot less in the long run.
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