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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #30 on: 15.07. 2016 10:09 »
By which time the secondary drive sprocket is worn out so you have to pull the primary cover off then remove the clutch to get to the sprocket.

Or removing the engine if you have a Plunger model!
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #31 on: 15.07. 2016 10:22 »
Understood, but I figure there will be a meteor strike of sufficient magnitude before I put that much wear through it.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #32 on: 15.07. 2016 18:27 »
you could of course fit a scott-oiler end of problem

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #33 on: 18.07. 2016 12:55 »
Yeah - as per my comment a couple of pages back.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #34 on: 21.01. 2022 00:25 »
After reading this topic i'm about to order myself a tin of chainwax and a spare drivechain.
Wat would be ( under normal riding conditions) a fair interval for exchange the drivechain ?
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #35 on: 21.01. 2022 17:42 »
G'day Chris.
Every oil change would be a good time as your hands are oily anyway.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #36 on: 22.01. 2022 06:57 »
I was banned from using Linklyfe after an incident when moving the tin of melted grease from the cooker in the kitchen out to the garage.
An oil can of EP90 before each run does it for me. Sometimes I even go wild and use a 60ml syringe of self-levelling grease instead. It has better anti-fling qualities than most specialist products.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #37 on: 22.01. 2022 09:41 »
I was banned from using Linklyfe after an incident when moving the tin of melted grease from the cooker in the kitchen out to the garage.
OMG! Did you spill it all?
When I did this, I waited until SHMBO was out. I heated the tin on the kitchen cooker and carefully placed it in the sink that I'd already lined with newspaper. After soaking the chain I hung it from the pot hanger above the sink to allow drippage.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #38 on: 22.01. 2022 11:46 »
For as long as I can remember, I've thoroughly washed my chains (petrol etc) and then immersed them in hot melted grease for half an hour before leaving to drip-dry. Beware - they get hot, so I manoeuvre them with a piece of welding wire in the last link. Keep a drum of grease (mainly graphite) for the purpose. It's an old 25L steel drum cut down to about eight inches that gets put on a gas ring. In my workshop, Neil. ;)  Putting oil / grease on the outside of a chain only attracts grit and wears the sprockets. Lubrication is required internally, between the rollers and pins.
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #39 on: 22.01. 2022 12:55 »
For as long as I can remember, I've thoroughly washed my chains (petrol etc) and then immersed them in hot melted grease for half an hour before leaving to drip-dry. Beware - they get hot, so I manoeuvre them with a piece of welding wire in the last link. Keep a drum of grease (mainly graphite) for the purpose. It's an old 25L steel drum cut down to about eight inches that gets put on a gas ring. In my workshop, Neil. ;)  Putting oil / grease on the outside of a chain only attracts grit and wears the sprockets. Lubrication is required internally, between the rollers and pins.

I agree . And about the intervals in miles ? Like every 500 miles or 1000 ? I,ve nog clue.

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #40 on: 22.01. 2022 15:54 »
Depends on the weather. Using my bike all year round in Scotland, in winter salt it was lube the chain every trip, each way. Not possible if doing the boiling in Linklyfe job. Can you imagine doing that in the office car park?
Your real answer is of course have a fully enclosed chainguard as my B31 has. 
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #41 on: 22.01. 2022 17:44 »
 Having the luxury of two chains means one is in use, the other ready to go on as needed. I reckon sprockets last longer as in incremental wear on the chains is spread over a longer period.

 Linking the dry chain to the greasy one means you can pull the greasy one on as the dry one is pulled off, no more struggling behind that primary chaincase trying to find the gearbox sprocket.

 I write the date in the Linklyfe, so I know the last time the job was done, and never risk the wrath of SWMBO. The camping stove does the job, and also gets a use warming up the Waxoyl  into a hot liquid to spray with a Schutz gun. Great for box section rust proofing.

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #42 on: 22.01. 2022 19:39 »
Using my bike all year round in Scotland, in winter salt it was lube the chain every trip, each way

My experience here in Scotland is the same.  Summer isn’t all that much better.

What I find is that the rear chain lasts a long time if you keep it oily.  I never wash the chain: I just keep it oily, by putting oil on it in situ.

In recent years, I’ve been using steam cylinder oil on the chain.  It’s messy, but it’s good at lubricating the chain.

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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #43 on: 23.01. 2022 05:12 »
Same as Swarfy except I use 3 chains
1 in the tin of Linklife awaiting fitting
1 in a bucket of kerro celf cleaning
1 on the bike
Takes about 2 minutes to run a fresh chain through particularly if you wear rubber gloves it can be really clean.
And like Swarfy only adjust the rear wheel on one of the chains
When I was running the SR 500 ( a known chain eater ) for courier service I used to buy complete rolls of Hitachi chain and got about a year out of a roll of chain & a set of sprockets by changing the chains weekly 
The first year I was going through a set of sprockets every month
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Re: Drive chain lubrication
« Reply #44 on: 23.01. 2022 09:03 »
A mate of mine (Jim), from many years ago, used to work for Reynolds Chains in Manchester. According to him, greases which solidify are not ideal to preserve the life of a chain because, after a few rotations the grease gets pushed out of the way of the friction points between the pins and the rollers, then because the grease is thick it doesn't flow back. Jim said that the best circumstances for a chain are an oil bath where the oil is fairly light but has good adhesive properties. It is highly unlikely to be able to achieve these conditions in a secondary chain so the best alternative is to use an O-ring chain where each pin runs in its own enclosed oil bath. The oil selected by the manufacturer is likely to be the most suitable for the application. When I used to race moto-cross bikes back in the 70's and 80's I used the 'boil your chain in grease on the cooker method' but, after being advised by Jim I switched to an O-ring chain. I could get a whole season out of an O-ring chain whereas previously I went through at least three chains a year. This is remarkable considering the abuse a chain gets on a moto-cross bike. On my modern bikes I use O-ring chains with a Scottoiler which reduces friction on the sprockets. On my A10's I use a decent quality chain (Regina) and give it a good oiling on a regular basis. I try to run the oil between the plates so that it flows into the bearing surfaces. O-ring chains are a lot fatter than conventional chains so they usually catch on the chainguard if you try to fit them to an A10 but it is worth persevering if you're running something non-standard with a bespoke chainguard.