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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #30 on: 30.11. 2016 22:24 »
Just looked at a breather and it has two holes in it 180 deg apart.  So it "vents" every revolution.

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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #31 on: 30.11. 2016 22:38 »

 Yep, as it needs to
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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #32 on: 01.12. 2016 02:21 »
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The clearance between the breather and the inner timing cover would also impact the vacuum

When the case is bolted up and compresses the cork washer there is zero clearance between the breather flange and inner case !

Kiwi,
If the case was bolted up without aligning the peg and breather it may have damaged the case ???
Worse if it was run like that, or with a too tight preload and worn the alloy case ????

John

There was no evidence of wear on the case, but it's difficult to tell, there was evidence of the peg wearing the breather, but nothing too serious so I guess the peg wore away pretty quickly. The bike was a basket case pretty much when I got it and I never ran it like that, I noticed the problem when building the engine up.
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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #33 on: 01.12. 2016 03:20 »
 
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Its an urban myth.
Has anyone actually seen with their own eyes that replacing the cork washer fixes oil coming out the breather?

  This may well be a mighty fine opportunity to find out...."suck 'n See" *smile*

 I'm not sure if I needed to actually do it, but at least considered packing a too-thin cork with gasket paper behind (sneaking suspicion I did)
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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #34 on: 01.12. 2016 06:34 »
Uuuuugh! It's been a long time since I looked at that damn breather and have embarrassed myself again. So, anyone care to comment on my claim of neutral pressure versus tuning for pressure? I may as well have a thorough stropping, no reason to go half way.  Next time I'm just claiming old age and leaving it at that.

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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #35 on: 01.12. 2016 08:37 »
Doesn't the cork washer also cut take out the end float on the cam shaft?  Or have I misremembered?
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Re: engine breather (again)
« Reply #36 on: 01.12. 2016 09:01 »

 
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Doesn't the cork washer also cut take out the end float on the cam shaft?........

 Emphatically NOT... *bash*

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  Or have I misremembered?
     Yep

 Set the Cam end float independently, and when I did mine, I put the barrels on blank (no lifters/followers/"tappets") and look down the pushrod tunnel to check for centrality.
 Then do the other thing whatever we're on about
Started building in about 1977/8 a on average '52 A10 -built from bits 'n pieces never resto intended -maybe 'personalised'
Have a '74 850T Moto Guzzi since '92-best thing I ever bought doesn't need a kickstart 'cos it bump starts sooooooooo(mostly) easy
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