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Offline terryg

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Mahindra acquires BSA
« on: 24.10. 2016 21:20 »
Anyone got any info on the change of ownership of BSA?
Surely I've missed the relevant post here that spills the beans.

Maybe more than tinware coming from the subcontinent in the near future?

More likely machine tool products, I imagine.
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #1 on: 24.10. 2016 22:17 »
Some information on the sump newspages;
http://www.sumpmagazine.com/classicbikenews/index.htm
Makes one wonder...
Mahindra already builds two wheeled transport.
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #2 on: 25.10. 2016 10:27 »
Very interesting ??
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #3 on: 25.10. 2016 10:45 »
That is something the UK is particulaly good at. As Harold Macmillan famously observed "selling off the family silver" Interesting to see how yet again an overeas company can see value in something that us Brits are unable or unwilling to capitalise on. Chinese MG, Indian Jaguar/Land Rover, Indian British Steel, American Cadburys and to many others to mention. So, why not I suppose? It is after all a traditional way of operating British commerce, and if there is one thing we Brits are proud of, it's our tradition.

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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #4 on: 25.10. 2016 13:37 »
I hope they dont go the same way as  Royal Enfield?
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #5 on: 25.10. 2016 17:45 »
when enfield open new plant in 2018 they will produce 900 000 bikes a year they must be doing something right

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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #6 on: 26.10. 2016 00:07 »
 Yes, they make cheap bikes that look old.

 Price out a new Harley Davidson once, and you will understand how India does it.

 Not saying the Indian bikes are badly made, they are just a lot more attractive than a $40,000 bike thats not even "loaded".

 Now add to your new Harley a couple of $800.00 (a piece) Harley jackets,two pairs $300.00 Harley boots, and a $35.00 Harley bandanna, and you are all set.

 Harley has a tendency to price people right out, and with the bad reputation their lower end models have (true or not) it has left the door wide open for Indian made bikes.

 
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #7 on: 26.10. 2016 07:30 »
That is something the UK is particulaly good at. As Harold Macmillan famously observed "selling off the family silver" Interesting to see how yet again an overeas company can see value in something that us Brits are unable or unwilling to capitalise on. Chinese MG, Indian Jaguar/Land Rover, Indian British Steel, American Cadburys and to many others to mention. So, why not I suppose? It is after all a traditional way of operating British commerce, and if there is one thing we Brits are proud of, it's our tradition.

Don't forget the BMW Minis and Massey Fergusons by Mahindra. I guess the positive of all this is someone has plans to build a new BSA. Be intersesting to see if they build singles or twins.
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #8 on: 26.10. 2016 07:33 »
As a101960 said..... "selling off the family silver".  That says it all.  Why can't we see the value of our own historic  brands ? Why do we need to other countries to buy it cheap only to sell products back to us as "British heritage" top dollar prices !!!

For instance, it doesn't just stop at motorcycles.  Even motorcycle clothing.  Just check out the prices of Belstaff jackets now, another Brit company run into the ground, bought by Europe, manufacturing shipped to China and products sold back to us at unbelievable cost.  I know we have higher wages in the U.K but as it's sold as a premium U.K. Product ££££,  can we not justify sucking up the higher manufacturing cost to have it produced here ???

On another note, a few years back a young lad I work with said to me he'd just completed his full motorbike test and had bought an AJS. Obviously I was very impressed that he even knew the Marque, and was looking forward to seeing it.  When he turned up, I couldn't believe what a pile of crap it was. It wasn't genuine,  It was a new, made in........... yes, you got it, China model.  As if it wasn't bad enough been a chopper look a like, it was a 125 rattler wearing the iconic AJS brand. Aaaarrrgggghhhhhh !!!!

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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #9 on: 26.10. 2016 09:46 »
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"selling off the family silver" .... Why can't we see the value of our own historic  brands ? Why do we need to other countries to buy it cheap only to sell products back to us as "British heritage"
well, along with being the worlds second largest arms dealers, the UK has to exchange something for all the oil and chinese TVs you import. what else do you have? we've sold our family silver and have only milk powder and millions of tourist to swap for all the pointless crap we buy. consumption has a price...
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #10 on: 26.10. 2016 19:56 »
Hi All,
I read last night that they have bought Jawa as well ????
So maybe BSA's made in Eastern Europe???????

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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #11 on: 26.10. 2016 20:15 »
Does anyone else think the downside of this might be that our bikes become associated with new, common and (potentially) cheesy bikes?

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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #12 on: 04.11. 2016 04:14 »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIsc3Ay9xO4
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2016/october/bsa-set-for-revival-after-indian-buyout

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2016/october/new-bsa-within-two-years-as-mahindra-buy-also-jawa

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/sports/mahindra-racing-opens-new-state-of-the-art-engineering-and-development-facility-in-italy/articleshow/48869192.cms

apparently the Indian owners club had problems mixing the classic old school pre 53 (?) Indians with brand new Indian owners who had no understanding of the "old" models. I guess its no different to hinkley vs meriden trumpets or trying to ascertain what country ford actually belongs to.

It will be interesting to watch though with their Italian development centre for their moto3 bikes
if they double up their 250 racer we could have a new 500 Star Twin  ;)
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #13 on: 04.11. 2016 17:55 »
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Re: Mahindra acquires BSA
« Reply #14 on: 04.11. 2016 18:07 »
I won hold my breath Duncan , I don't believe anything I read in there nowadays *smiley4*
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