Well from Richards readings im only .010" out so my crank position seems to be ok. i cannot remember what shims went in as its been stood for a while waiting for this pump. One new thing though, a friend of mine who has asked me to build his long stroke engine has the same recon pump from them, and sure enough the cut away around the gear is 40 thou lower, and i can get the pump face up to the crankcase, it still just touches the pinion but thats without a gasket. So more telephone conversations will be needed.