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MOT exemption question
« on: 02.06. 2018 21:03 »
hi,
     just taxed my bike online ,its free because its historic on the v5c. When doing so the web site tells me it no longer needs an MOT,and i have to tick a box or say yes ,(i can`t remember which) to confirm this is correct.My question is do i still have to fill out any other forms for the DVLA or not ? .The more i read about it the more i get confused ,and if i check the MOT status on the DVLA web site it says "no results returned" ,but this is in light blue box and not red.
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #1 on: 02.06. 2018 23:35 »
I think so, it's a V627/1 form.

I had to go into this very carefully due to heavy modifications. It appears I'm ok due to them being done over thirty years ago. (Actually fifty years this year as a chopper, B.S.A. Were still in business for another five years or so after it got the treatment!)

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #2 on: 03.06. 2018 10:23 »
Hi Rob, this may help you. I also seached the gov site for info relating to my particular situation (see below).  On the gov site (somewhere obscure) I found a list of club experts who were allocated by the DVLC to answer questions relating to historic vehicles. I sent an email to the BSAOC expert given.

bsamarqueexpert@bsaownersclub.co.uk

Here's a pic file of my email and the reply I received.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #3 on: 03.06. 2018 11:35 »

Just taxed my Flash on line (was sorn -ed for a year or three while I fettled the RGF), was very easy as it's MOT exempt now, so now I can arrange an MOT or roadworthy certificate at my leisure, not trying to fit it in with an untaxed run to the MOT station (and possible uninsured also- never was sure about the one)
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #4 on: 03.06. 2018 12:15 »
Insure it before you ride it to the test station.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #5 on: 03.06. 2018 12:36 »
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Insure it before you ride it to the test station.


Thanks TT, I always was insured, I was thinking more along the lines of whether your insurance would still be valid if the bike was not taxed or MOT'd as you rode to the MOT station
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #6 on: 03.06. 2018 14:44 »
You will be insured.

I can’t guarantee that your typical slippery insurance company wouldn’t put up some argument in the case of a claim though.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #7 on: 03.06. 2018 15:10 »
If not taxed, as I understand it you're ok (and legal by law) as long as you pre arrange for your MOT and it's booked in. Then you must go straight there and home again - no nice rides in the countrside on the way there or back  *sad2*.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #8 on: 06.06. 2018 21:17 »
thanks for the replies,so i guess i assume the DVLA have it mot exempt on their system and i dont have to do anything else.I am sure plod will explain if i get stopped. Or i might just email the DVLA and wait.
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #9 on: 06.06. 2018 21:48 »
As for as I can make out from Chris, BSAOC expert who answered my query, if your BSA is already classed as an Historic Vehicle on the V5C then it is exempt from MOT from 20-5-18. If it's not classed as Historic on the V5C then you must get it changed, if your bike qualifies, for it to become exempt.

If you email DVLA with a question I think you may have to be prepared for a long wait *pull hair out*.
(Edit: is DVLA not DVLC).

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #10 on: 06.06. 2018 22:45 »
Just taxed my Super Rocket online. During the process I was told that DVLA believes my bike to be over 40 years old and therefore does not require an MOT provided it has not been significantly altered. The 'significantly altered' (might have been 'substantially changed' - can't remember) bit is underlined in blue so you can click it to get a definition of what 'significantly altered' means. I didn't bother because my Super Rocket has only had its wheels , tank, seat, engine, primary transmission, mudguards, rear suspension and headlight changed (you may detect a hint of sarcasm here). Even though these items have been changed they are still 'period' and the bike still looks like a Super Rocket so it has not been significantly altered. I had to tick a box which is a self-declaration that the bike has not been significantly altered. So, provided you can tick the box with a clear conscience, your bike is MOT free....yipeeeee!!
The DVLA have given more consideration to cars than motorcycles (fancy that....well I never!) and their advice is found by following this link https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteria/historic-classic-vehicles-mot-exemption-criteria
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #11 on: 06.06. 2018 23:33 »

 
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..... I didn't bother because my Super Rocket has only had its wheels , tank, seat, engine, primary transmission, mudguards, rear suspension and headlight changed (you may detect a hint of sarcasm here)........

 But it's still the same bike/axe/hoe/shovel ..... *smile*
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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #12 on: 07.06. 2018 08:22 »
I was told that DVLA believes my bike to be over 40 years old and therefore does not require an MOT provided it has not been significantly altered.
I had to tick a box which is a self-declaration that the bike has not been significantly altered. So, provided you can tick the box with a clear conscience, your bike is MOT free....yipeeeee!!

I taxed my GF 12 days before the law changed, so there was no box for me to tick on the form so in effect I wasn't able to declare my bike as not significantly changed. Its tax didn't expire until 31 May so doing it early has just complicated it for me *doh*. I'm assuming that even though there was no box for me to tick to be able to declare it unchanged to the DVLA, as it is still a bog standard GF and would qualify for exemption, - it is! *conf*.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #13 on: 07.06. 2018 09:11 »
You will be insured.
I can’t guarantee that your typical slippery insurance company wouldn’t put up some argument in the case of a claim though.

Which would be the case if the bike had an MoT, no matter whether it was 30 minutes or 11 1/2 months after it's last MoT test.

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Re: MOT exemption question
« Reply #14 on: 07.06. 2018 09:14 »
My A&SS tax expires at the end of the month and the MOT a day later, which I always maintained to be able to tax it on line in advance.

This year I am going to wait until the second of July so that I get the tick box and can be certain the migration to no MOT needed is complete.
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