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« on: 28.10. 2019 05:44 »
How do I connect a magneto cut out to turn off the motor. There is nothing in my new wiring harness to cut off the ignition !

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Re: Magneto
« Reply #1 on: 28.10. 2019 06:29 »
Run a lead from it to a handlebar button that earths it to the bar when you press the button.

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Re: Magneto
« Reply #2 on: 28.10. 2019 08:54 »
How do I connect a magneto cut out to turn off the motor. There is nothing in my new wiring harness to cut off the ignition !
There are some mag end caps with a stop button built in.
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #3 on: 28.10. 2019 11:21 »
I was inquireing about how to connect to the mag. There is no connection on the cap.

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Re: Magneto
« Reply #4 on: 28.10. 2019 12:03 »
I was inquireing about how to connect to the mag. There is no connection on the cap.
I think, most are like pic 1
Then there are these, in pic 2

I cannot find an image of one with the stop button in the cap.
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #5 on: 28.10. 2019 12:46 »
I was inquireing about how to connect to the mag. There is no connection on the cap.
I think, most are like this: https://tinyurl.com/y2prox25
Then there are these: https://tinyurl.com/y5keh9vl

I cannot find an image of one with the stop button in the cap.

GB. I have one fitted as standard on my 1960 Matchless G12. Aluminium dome with a metal pushbutton in the middle.

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Re: Magneto
« Reply #6 on: 28.10. 2019 12:57 »
I was inquireing about how to connect to the mag. There is no connection on the cap.

Post a photo.

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Re: Magneto
« Reply #7 on: 28.10. 2019 13:09 »
Here's one, on a mag (off an AMC twin). But the stop button has been replaced by an insulated sleeve, brush and spring, for remote stop. Which may provide a useful clue if it's this sort in question. Originally, there was just a mushroom-headed bit of spring-loaded bar, that shorts out the live cb centre screw when you press it. Not handy, some say (including me), hence mods.

There are plain end covers, held by a pillar and clip, with no take-off for a wire or button even - but they usually live on K1Fs which people stop with the decompressor.

The three basic standard K2F versions have provision, with a wire off the plastic covers retained by pillar and clip, or via a stud connected to a brush and spring in the middle (big screw-on alloy type) - or there's the button sort.

On BSAs I think - but not completely sure - that the alloy dome was used on some twins in the early-to-mid 50s, before going to the clip-on plastic sort with wire off, and then finally to the screw-on alloy job towards the end.
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #8 on: 30.10. 2019 00:23 »

 manxy- may I suggest an edit to the topic to specify something more specific ie; "Magneto End cover/cutout....?"

 Until you post a pic we can only guess, but for what it's worth in my case I did much as groily suggested, having soldered a washer over a short length of copper pipe inside plastic tube on the inner end, and a fibre washer over the copper (cut plastic flush and made copper protrude past cover to accommodate f-washer) outside, and a set screw up the end, works a treat *wink2*
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #9 on: 30.10. 2019 09:42 »
G'day manxman.
After you work out the kill botton/switch and it won't work. Have a look at the other end of the mag is a screw. It houses the earth brush. If this isn't right you won't be able to kill the motor (unless you stall it).
This was the first problem I had with my plunger 38 years ago.
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #10 on: 30.10. 2019 21:48 »
No earth brush is more serious that as the mag armature will earth via the bearings which will gently spark erode.
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Re: Magneto
« Reply #11 on: 31.10. 2019 07:23 »
^^^ bugged if mine would. A  Carbon out of a C size battery fixed it.
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