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Offline Daniel Toro (DT)

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Clutch Disassembly
« on: 14.08. 2009 00:10 »
Sorry, but how I disassembly this part?

The screw on the left is very tight and if put some pressure, all the engine turns.

The other one is the same, I don´t have any idea how to keep this part locked.
In the Haynes manual is very simple, but there they disassembly all the engine. Yes, quite easy. kkk.

I bought the seal and hope is this the problem. When I take off the cover, was full of oil, 1 liter I think.

Thanks.
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #1 on: 14.08. 2009 00:33 »
Select 4th gear and have someone put pressure on the rear brake pedal to hold the assembly.
The front nut may have to be loosened with a drift and hammer.
The clutch nut may need a socket and a long bar.
There should be oil in the chain case.
If your engine is pre 1953, there is no seal behind the sprocket.
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #2 on: 14.08. 2009 03:09 »
great, Trev.

Thank you very much. I´ve used the drift and hammer but with no success, but was in the neutral.

By the way, I´m selling a brand new oil seal for the primary! hehehehe....
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #3 on: 14.08. 2009 03:27 »
I have used am 18" plumber's pipe wrench with success, but have now changed to SRM hex-drive type cush nut. The tightened nut, according to SRM should get 65 ft. lbs. Very hard to achieve with a drift or c-spanner wrench.

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #4 on: 14.08. 2009 14:34 »
So, if my engine don´t use the seal, what could be the cause of the oil in the primary?

Just the ball+spring inside the engine, or could be something else?
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #5 on: 14.08. 2009 15:47 »
Ok, I know, but in the manual says 100cc in the primary and had at least 1 liter.
It was up half the cover with oil.

In this image we can see perfectly the line of oil, almost at half.

I don´t know if this is the normal.
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #6 on: 14.08. 2009 15:58 »
Was it that way when you got it? Meaning, maybe the last owner didn't know what he was doing. Or, did you fill it normally and it flooded to this level? I am not sure I will have the solution based on these questions, but it could help other members understand the problem and offer advice.

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #7 on: 14.08. 2009 16:20 »
I fill normally and flooded to this level. :(

The last time before putting oil I emptied the primary, took off the sump plate and empty the tank of oil. Even here I asked what was the way to put oil in the bike.

I put new oil and soon the primary was filled again. I was betting on the seal, but if my model do not have this restriction, now have a problem.


I make a phone call to the Leigh Classics but they don´t have the spares
I was looking for, so I don´t go there and buy online from Draganfly and Burton Bikes. :)
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #8 on: 14.08. 2009 18:00 »
Oil level rising, I see 3 possibilities only: trough gearbox shaft, crankshaft, hole in the crankcase. Time for some detective work !

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #9 on: 14.08. 2009 18:50 »
DT...

Removing this screw in the picture will give you the correct oil level in the primary chain case. Notice the rubber ring to prevent leakage.
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #10 on: 14.08. 2009 19:46 »
Thanks Lg.

Gf, Here´s my detective work:

Assemble all I need to put the bike working.
Leave the primary open, whithout the clutch.
(I was not able to get the engine sprocket off.)

And then, sit down having a beer and looking at the cranckcase until some oil appear. :D

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #11 on: 14.08. 2009 20:03 »
I use an air impact wrench (with about 100 PSI of air behind it) to take big engine and clutch nuts off.  Usually you don't even have to lock the brake down, the inertia of the engine and gearbox is enough to hold it for the nut to come off.

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #12 on: 14.08. 2009 20:54 »
I think the impact wrench implies a hex cush nut. Can you set the torque value when spinning on?

On another note, I am completely distracted today, with the Air Force Thunderbirds flying six F16s right by my window as they practice for this weekends Chicago Air and Water Show.

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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #13 on: 14.08. 2009 21:05 »
The clutch nut I remove without problem after the Trev´s orientation.
Quite easy, in fact.

But the sprocket I don´t even have the tool.
And doesn´t matter, my engine does not have a seal anyway...
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Re: Clutch Disassembly
« Reply #14 on: 14.08. 2009 21:56 »
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sit down having a beer and looking
That's the best way to get things working again  *smile*

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