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old log book
« on: 19.02. 2020 12:58 »
Good afternoon you guys , I was looking though some old docs of my parents over the weekend  and was blown away by finding the old log book for my second A series bike a '59 shooter.
Now a question this bikes tank frame plus oil and tool box  was stolen in the early 70's ,What was left formed the basis of my current bike albeit the engine was swapped for a big journal 650 motor. I've checked in the past but the reg number hasn't been used (although thinking about it I've the frame number now so I can check that with the BSA owners club  ,it may be around )  is there any chance of reclaiming the number for my present bike which as an aged related plate ?  Your input would be appreciated ,cheers Bob.
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Re: old log book
« Reply #1 on: 19.02. 2020 13:11 »
The process is set out on the DVLA website and they do not deviate from it;

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/old-vehicles

More information on the BSAOC website;

https://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/machine_retention.php


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Re: old log book
« Reply #2 on: 19.02. 2020 13:19 »
Thanks julian ,appears not ...shame
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« Reply #3 on: 20.02. 2020 09:03 »
The process is set out on the DVLA website and they do not deviate from it;

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/old-vehicles

More information on the BSAOC website;

https://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/machine_retention.php

Hi Julian. I have read the DVLA notes with interest and see they say that they wouldn't supply an age related plate if the vehicle has new or replica parts. Obviously some working components have to be replaced for new so I wouldn't expect DVLA to quibble about those, e.g engine internals, wheel bearings etc. Similarly I wouldn't expect DVLA to quibble about fasteners. Is there a 'grey area' for things like mudguards, headlamps, wheel rims and seats where very convincing replicas can be purchased? I suppose some of this will depend on the attitude of the person inspecting the bike?
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Re: old log book
« Reply #4 on: 20.02. 2020 09:41 »
The basic rule with the DVLA is "tell them the bare minimum of info". Start supplying receipts for Indian-made tanks and 'guards, seats exhausts and God-knows what else and some junior clerk will start saying "no".
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« Reply #5 on: 20.02. 2020 10:25 »
The major parts are;

The frame

The forks

The wheels

The engine

The gearbox

A wheel with a new rim and spokes is not a new wheel, it is refurbished.

For old bikes, when a dating certificate is issued by the BSAOC for use for applying to the DVLA for an age related plate it will come with comprehensive and up to date notes explaining how to apply and how to complete the DVLA form V55/5.

Reclaiming an original plate is a different process, the essential part being pre 1983 documentary evience which directly connects the registration number to the frame number. It is a rigorous process. A tax disc will not help.

Getting an age related plate for a new bike you have constructed with major parts from different bikes is also different, see DVLA website for reconstructed classics;

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/reconstructed-classic-vehicles

It is DVLA who make these rules.
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