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Offline Doomtrainbarx

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« on: 28.06. 2020 16:15 »
I have aquired a 1962 super rocket in various boxes of rust.
It comes with original engine, frame and reg. number and the old buff log book, but is not on the dvla database.
If I apply for a v5, will it keep it's original number and still be transferable.
Any help/advice much appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: 28.06. 2020 17:05 »
The best way of dealing with this is through  the BSA Owners' Club. Their Librarian is the top man for retaining old registrations or acquiring age-related registrations if your old one can't be retrieved.
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Re: Registration
« Reply #2 on: 30.06. 2020 09:50 »
See what the DVLA say;

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/old-vehicles

You need to go through an owners club and the V765 scheme, no way around it.

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Re: Registration
« Reply #3 on: 30.06. 2020 10:43 »
Retained numbers are not transferrable.

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« Reply #4 on: 30.06. 2020 10:55 »
Nor are age-related, and both down to the shysters who retained an old number and promptly flogged it.
I was struck last week on a run how few classics have the original plate now. Out of six bikes only one of mine has the original number still, and that's a lot of history gone forever.

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« Reply #5 on: 30.06. 2020 13:06 »
When I was selling my B31 it came down to two plate vendors vying for it. I've still got the original and transferable plates on my A10, James and Sunbeam. Though to be honest, on the A10 it's probably the only original bit. 
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Re: Registration
« Reply #6 on: 30.06. 2020 14:05 »
It fascinates me why there were so many Scottish regs going spare...

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« Reply #7 on: 30.06. 2020 17:19 »
Not sure I'm happy to be referred to as a 'shyster'. My plate '911 ED' (referred to in a recent thread also about registrations) is obviously worth a lot of money, probably to a Porsche owner. I felt that if I didn't retain the plate, the next owner would....or the one after that. I would be a mug to sell a bike for £4500 then the next owner sell the plate for £10,000 and the bike for £4500 again. The bike went with an age-related plate which looked OK on the bike, and the guy who bought it was happy in the knowledge that it wasn't the original plate. If I'd left the plate on the bike I don't think I would have got a price that reflected the value of the plate and the bike together. Don't forget that the bikes left the factory without registration numbers, these were applied by the local council, so two identical bikes would have completely different plates depending on where they were sold. In my opinion the plate doesn't contribute much, if anything, towards the bike's history. But obviously a 'Q' plate or an incorrect age-specific plate looks wrong and I can see why people want to avoid that. Others may disagree about the plate's contribution to the bike's history and I can live with that! After having owned quite a few classic bikes during the last thirty years this is the only registration plate I have retained. I have probably sold a good few bikes with 'cherished numbers' but none as desirable as '911 ED'. I have been in the process of downsizing recently and the '911 Ed' Super Rocket and a non-BSA were earmarked for selling as these were probably the least interesting bikes I had. I'd be interested to know what anybody else would have done in my position. Are there any other 'shysters' out there?!
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« Reply #8 on: 30.06. 2020 17:27 »
I'd be interested to know what anybody else would have done in my position.

I'm with you unfortunately. Common sense has to prevail, that one has to be worth 1000 s.
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« Reply #9 on: 30.06. 2020 17:30 »
The numbers (cash) you mention speak for themselves as far as the economics are concerned, so I don't blame you for taking the deal. - who wouldn't ?

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« Reply #10 on: 30.06. 2020 19:32 »
I don't. "Shysters" was referring to those number plate dealers of some years back who would buy up old bikes by the lorry-load and strip off the reg's rather than someone who happened to chance upon a bike with a decent valuable number.
As you said, that plate was so iconic that if you didn't sell it the next owner certainly would have.
Sad, but that's pragmatic reality.