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Offline Swarfcut

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Crankshaft Renovation
« on: 07.10. 2022 08:17 »
 I've started this to keep some handle on Worty's problems, rather than it getting lost in the "What have you done" posts.

 As I see it the choices are to swap the crank for a better one, or to fix the existing one. You could say the original crank is completely screwed and as such you can't make things any worse by trying a cheap fix.

 If the bike ran smoothly, then the balance factor must be in the right ballpark, another thing to consider with a replacement crank. If it was always a bit of a bone shaker, a chance to make a change.

 My first step would be to asses the wear on the journals.  Badly scored or worn and no material left for a regrind, then it's goodbye to that one. It can be re-metalled, but here cost is the deciding factor.

 So if it is worth proceeding, the problem is to make sure the oilpump worm runs true...looks like some material missing between threads and crank pinion... and secure and lock it to the crank. Hooligans way would be to tack weld the worm to the crank....if the crank's on its last legs anyway, this gives it a final fling.

 The alternative would be to drill and tap the crank nose to take a left hand thread and locking bolt. Finding a tap and drilling accurately are the problems with this scheme. But an M8 left hand thread bolt is  available from your purveyor of Cheap Chinese Mitre Saws. It holds the blade on. Looks like there is enough thread of sorts to locate the worm, Loctite alone is also worth a look if the existing threads will grip.

 This can't be the first time this has happened, somewhere there is a specialised facility that could restore these threads...but of course the cost/benefit is the clincher to go this route.

 Swarfy Cheapskate.


 Additional. Wear limit on main and big end journals is stated at 2 Thou ovality. But if the crank will polish up OK, I would not hesitate to try a new set of shells on a crank with another thou or so of wear even if this meant a rough runner. Not ideal, but the difference between one that runs and one that doesn't. Timing bush wear is not a problem, grind to clean up the journal, custom bush made to fit.

 Cylinder bore max oversize is plus 60 with  common aftermarket pistons, reckon I have seen plus 80's somewhere. The existing bore needs to be checked, and if within wear limits, just given a light hone to break the glaze. Thick flange barrel casting is sought after, resleeve possible but not necessary at this stage.

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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #1 on: 07.10. 2022 14:47 »
swarfy my brother chased up the threads on both ends of a A7 crank i have,  but getting him to take this job on while he is working on gearboxes etc for abused big rotavators is going to be a challenge but when i get the crank out i will take it up and get a yes or no and if yes a price for the work. if he does want to take it on i am sure it will not be the 80£ an hour engineering shop price +VAT  ps one of the gearbox shafts on a rotavator has actually twisted when someone has managed to get it in 2 gears at once because it is a very old one without a mechanism to stop you doing that, so he is making one up using a pattern from a later model. those engines are very powerful and the shaft is probably inch and a half. you can see the twist on the splines *eek*

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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #2 on: 07.10. 2022 17:05 »
...and here are the pictures. three-thousand words worth, just so I could understand it.

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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #3 on: 07.10. 2022 17:14 »
"...abused big rotavators..."

I had to look it up, so I assume you are not referring to the first definition.

Rotovator can mean:

1. Momentum exchange tether#Rotovator, an alternative name for a tether propulsion apparatus, a proposed method of lifting materials into orbit using very long tethers attached to a rotating satellite
 
2. Rotovator, an alternative name for a rotary tiller, a machine for digging earth, named from a manufacturer of such implements




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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #4 on: 08.10. 2022 03:27 »
. this is one..  and i am rate sorry for misspelling i will employ a reader of my posts and let them corekt things

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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #5 on: 08.10. 2022 22:04 »
Bergs,

I didn't notice the spelling error. I just didn't know what the hell it was.

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Re: Crankshaft Renovation
« Reply #6 on: 08.10. 2022 22:20 »
good afternoon richard, i was only saying to worty when he brought his engine down the other day that what we read in print is sometimes totally different to talking face to face *good3*