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Oil Filter/cartridge type
« on: 01.07. 2010 09:22 »
I have seen a couple of A7/10's fitted with a catridge oil filter, whilst it's probably too late to save any damage to my motor it seems a good idea. I was impressed with the recent one shown on these pages fitted inside the tool box.
Is there a suitable "off the shelf" housing available for the job or are people adapting old car units ?

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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #1 on: 01.07. 2010 09:36 »
Pete,

these are readily available on ebay and from most part suppliers:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RETRO-FIT-OIL-FILTER-KIT-BRITISH-4-STROKE-MOTORCYCLES-/220495438801?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item33568d63d1

The filter cartidges are Citroen 2CV (black), a chromed Harley version is available as well.

Goffy sells a complete kit with everything needed to mount it in the toolbx:
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffyoil.htm

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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #2 on: 01.07. 2010 09:45 »
Pete
The ones from Goffy which Markus recommended look really good and come with all the pipework. I am going to order one and fit it when I next change the oil. Goffy's website is well worth a visit. Some useful bits and the stories from Goffy about his biking experiences are well worth a read.
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #3 on: 01.07. 2010 10:37 »
Got'em on both of mine. Takes the same filter as Dupussi, kidneys for your bike.
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #4 on: 01.07. 2010 11:39 »
Terrific information and all in the space of 2 hours.
Thanks guys, now I know what I need and where to go !

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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #5 on: 01.07. 2010 11:46 »
This may be of help for anyone looking for replacement cartridges


(same as fitted to Citroen 2CV & Peugeot 205 & 309) UFI part number (23.105.00) corresponds with;
AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)
Champion 101
Cooper Z64
Fiaam FT4654 or FT 4847
Fram PH2839, PH2864A
Halfords HOF216
Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)
Mann & H W712/9, W712/11
Motorcraft EFL 47
NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)
Powertrain FL125
Purflux LS131
Purolator FC 103 or OC 5
Purolator L17601
Tecafilter Ref OC5
Technocar R12, R72, R434
TJ FB2094
UFI 23 149 00
Unipart GFE 201
Ryco Z93,
 
Purolator L17601
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #6 on: 01.07. 2010 17:24 »
Just to prove that there is another location - I wanted mine in the air flow (high oil temp. RGS engine) so have mounted it tucked up under the gearbox infront of the centre stand pivot, facing forwards (not downwards). There's loads of ground clearance to do this and I still have room for the voltage regulator, fuse box, indicator flasher unit and a bag of 'get me home' tools in the tool box and it's also out of sight.
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #7 on: 02.07. 2010 22:43 »
Hi There is an alternative which is more expensive but is easier to place. I have only seen it advertised in the STAR BSA owners mag. Its available from BlightB6@aol.com around £50 it uses the slimline Norton cartridges. Pic below on someone else's bike I saw at VMCC rally. I will be using one of these but not ready yet. I don't know the seller. Its called a Hide-Di-Hi.



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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #8 on: 03.07. 2010 02:12 »
Stu that looks neat.
Bill add Ryco Z93, Wix 57314 and Purolator L17601 to your very helpful list.
I used the Ryco until the price hit $44 each !!! I found the Wix at a truck and tractor shop at $12.50.
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #9 on: 03.07. 2010 08:32 »
Speaking of alternatives:

I've one of these on the A7, mounted between the rear g'box plates (under the ski-slope cover).

http://www.mapcycle.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=MAP6500&type=0

Very neat kit, even when mounted visibly it doesn't look out of place on an old bike. It uses a BSA A75/ TRI T150/T160 filter element. Also available in chrome btw.

Only downside is it hasn't got a bypass valve, so periodical changes are advisable.
Not a huge problem when fitted to the return line though and the transparent flexible tube, although looking a bit like a garden hose, allows you to check the returning flow at a glance.

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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #10 on: 03.07. 2010 09:18 »
Bill add Ryco Z93, Wix 57314 and Purolator L17601 to your very helpful list.

Hi Muskrat - Done

You pay a good price for filters down there - very general price at Halfords (not the cheapest always) is around 7 to 9 pounds UK
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #11 on: 03.07. 2010 10:08 »
And Gold Star Ron dose a filter kit that mounts to the rear engine plated between the donk & the box, very neat.
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #12 on: 03.07. 2010 10:10 »
There's another filtration system suitable for our bikes.
I've fitted a hi-de-hide filter on my plunger, and pleased with its performance. There will be pictures of it fitted to the frame between the plunger and seat somewhere on the forum. Extra length of tubing and the filter body seem to keep the oil cool, as well.

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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #13 on: 02.10. 2014 17:57 »
By pure accident I found a shorter filter with the same characteristic as those above ( low flow resistance), helps if locating elsewhere and height is an issue.
it's a UFI 23 149 00  also Benelli and Motoguzzi printed on the box

is about 1/2 to an inch shorter
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Re: Oil Filter/cartridge type
« Reply #14 on: 02.10. 2014 19:51 »
I also have fitted a Hi Di Hi filter. It is a good piece of kit, and (to my eyes at least) it even looks as if it could have been factory fitted by BSA.