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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #15 on: 05.08. 2010 19:25 »
Thats a result, now I know what to do with mine.

What a site this is eh!  wink2
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #16 on: 05.08. 2010 22:27 »
Lawnmowerman,
                           You will find four tapped holes in the rear section of your seat base.
One set for standard "L" bracket mounting and the other for RGS top guard mount.
The front bracket stayed the same.
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #17 on: 06.08. 2010 12:07 »
Thats a result, now I know what to do with mine.

What a site this is eh!  wink2

My excitement was a bit premature as part # 42-6899 is for the Super Rocket mudguard not the RGS.  *red* so back to square one.  *problem*

I found on Lyfords site a part # 42-9199 quoted as 'RGS Rear Seat Bracket', I don't suppose anyone has an image of this?
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #18 on: 06.08. 2010 16:15 »
Goldseeker - I forgot that you have curved guards - you need the valanced type to use the brackets as they need a vertical surface to bolt to. Is it possible for you to make another curved support on top of the mudguard but make the mounting ears a bit lower? It would probably be best to offer up the seat first without the bracket and locate it at the front and adjust the rubber buffers on the single seat mounts so the seat looks right. Then you will be able to get an idea how low you need to go with the curved bracket at the rear. (Perhaps make a pattern first with a bit of soft ally bolted to the guard and then bent in situ to suit the seat height). Sounds like you may well have a market if you make a few extra.  *smile*

If you talk to Mike at Lyfords he may be able to describe the RGS bracket - he is very helpful.

My brackets came today from Lyfords and I tried them on the spare set of holes in the guard and the seat sat lower - just enough to get fingers under the back against the guard with a polishing cloth. I may take it a little lower by elongating the holes on the L brackets but I would then glue a piece of HD foam on the seat base out of sight at the rear in case the seat flexes a little with a pillion passenger and marks the paint on the guard. I ordered rubber buffers too and they fit a treat over the top of the redundant bolts used for the single seat option and support the middle of the seat - perhaps I will add a spot of contact adhesive to stop them falling off but once the seat is in place they cannot move.

I will add some pictures when I have finished the job.

BTW, those of you with Wassel seats will not need the rubber buffers as I noticed on my Wassel that there are some built-in rubber blocks which rest on the frame tubes each side.


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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #19 on: 06.08. 2010 19:31 »
Making up a bracket to with lower 'ears' is on the cards Jim, but buying one that does the job just makes getting back on the road quicker. Working on bikes is for the winter.  *smiley4*

Seeing how yours looks once you have done will be of interest.

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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #20 on: 06.08. 2010 20:18 »
I think this is what goes as a RGS seat bracket, not too sure as everything seems to be labelled RGS these days
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #21 on: 06.08. 2010 20:24 »
I think this is what goes as a RGS seat bracket, not too sure as everything seems to be labelled RGS these days

Thanks Bill, that would do the trick, the 'ears' are a good deal lower than the bracket I have at the moment.

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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #22 on: 07.08. 2010 11:44 »
Bill - this bracket looks a lot stronger than the L bracket solution and does not show when the seat is on. Did you buy it or did it come with the bike. I may use it instead of the L brackets. If I cannot buy one it does not look too difficult to make.

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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #23 on: 07.08. 2010 21:48 »
Hi Jim - bought this off the dreaded auction site as it seemed to be passing through without a bid, but they are available from a few traders and not too  expensive, however this is one case where a repro item is better than the original - stronger judge for your self SRM and Draganfly have them.
But this is like the one I bought - item 290459707227 ( this is much more than I paid for mine ) and SRM and Draganfly also about halve this price but as I said their brackets don't seem as strong

One thing to note If you decide to make one, the ears on this are bent (on an angle) in such a way as to make the bracket fit one way only, I would bend them at right angle to the line of the bracket, then with the holes drilled  offset (pic one) you would have an option of two distances should you need them
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #24 on: 07.08. 2010 23:01 »
Lawnmowerman,
                         The RGS bracket is a hell of a thing to make. I made one years ago but have since bought one as shown.
You will have a bit of an issue with the guard top radius with the manufactured one.
Why not just go the easy way as BSA intended? If you paint the "L" brackets the same colour as the guard they will not be noticeable, if that is an issue.
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #25 on: 09.08. 2010 13:10 »
Thanks Bill. The pics show exactly how the bracket is bent and I will probably have a go at banging one out of a piece of flat strip and bend the ears at about a 20 degree offset to square - I think this will have the effect of bringing the ears parallel with the length of the seat base. I looked at the bracket on the auction site and the pic of your bike and I would have to take some of the curvature out of the RGS bracket to make it fit which will probably spread the seat mounting holes apart. Why is it that anything with RGS in the desription is twice the price of standard stuff - even if it is sometimes the same part?
Trev - thanks for the info. The curvature on the RGS guard is a lot tighter than the valanced type on my SR. Probably a bit easier to shape on mine if I make it to fit the seat base first and then scribe through the guard holes onto the bracket for the fixings. I have the RGS L brackets anyway so I can paint these and use them as a second option.

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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #26 on: 09.08. 2010 13:15 »
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #27 on: 26.01. 2011 22:49 »
Hi all

Just an update on this thread which may be useful to other members.

I ordered some BAP taps last week from SRM and while I was looking at their website I noticed they sold a RGS seat bracket which is similar to the standard bracket but the ears sit a little lower. I made a bracket from some flat iron but it was a bugger to make because the bending angles of the ears are not at right angles. I thought I would try the SRM bracket and ordered one up as even with my fabricated bracket the seat still sat a little too high for my liking.
The usual brackets listed elsewhere for the RGS are L brackets.
The bracket arrived and the curvature matched my SR guard perfectly and all I had to do was widen the seat mounting holes as they were about a mm too close together. The seat sits exactly where I want it now with the rear about 3/8" above the guard.
Impressed with the BAP taps too - NO MORE LEAKS!!!!!!!!

Jim
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #28 on: 27.01. 2011 09:09 »
copy the BAP tap recommendation!!!
still not even the slightest sign of a leak here after 7 months (on all 4 taps I have in use)
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Re: Leighton seats
« Reply #29 on: 27.01. 2011 09:15 »
I have BAP taps on my Guzzi and they are still like new after 17 years.  *clap*