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Re: roller starter
« Reply #15 on: 21.12. 2012 22:25 »
A bit of a random thought, but how powerfull is a jogging machine? A ramp to back the bike on and don't some of them have a remote on/off' speed regulator?
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #16 on: 22.12. 2012 04:45 »
 Ha, my walker keeps the wife going so should start a tractor.
Did I just say that? *red*
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #17 on: 22.12. 2012 11:53 »
Yes, you did Musky!  *lol*
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #18 on: 22.12. 2012 14:01 »


Yea crack me up Muskie, that's from the same logic as pulling the barrels from eye bolts on a bungy drop *eek*(or was that my take on it)

 Seriously, Broomstick, Have you tried push/bump starting..you know, like the racers, 2nd gear, if you can do that(pick a down-hill), looks soooo cool,will get the girls...??
 Having said that, when mine(plunger) is all in one piece, will try same logic *smile*

 On another note the walker/treadly thing is not such a bad idea, if you put it on wheels and a tow bar, but could still get messy if you snuff it at the lights..... *conf*
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #19 on: 22.12. 2012 14:53 »
Bloody Hell Dutch! He's 77 years old! *smile* *smile* *smile*........ Bump start indeed!
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #20 on: 22.12. 2012 15:13 »
Whats the formula for working out the roller speed ?

Small rollers will have a small contact area with the tyre. 12v starter motor looks the best way to go. Then what starter motor to use best with a new one but which one ?

Angle grinder is a possible  and gives the 110v option subject to transformer.

There was a chap selling plans on ebay he stopped selling the rollers some time back.

It all gets complicated very quick and I must admit I got lost in the detail.......but I still want one !

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #21 on: 22.12. 2012 20:14 »
 I remember twenty years ago when I was a lot stronger. Putting the A7SS racer on its stand in gear then rotate the rear wheel backwards till it came up on TDC, the give it a real good spin the right way. Started 50% of the time. Once it started and rocked off the stand and went racing out of the pit shed and into the back of my ute by itself. Bugga.
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #22 on: 22.12. 2012 22:04 »
I know a fella, who is about the same age, and also an old bike nutter.
Last time I saw him he told me that due to knee/hip problems he can't get his bikes started anymore.
He still got a lot of strength in his arms though, which lead me to this idea;
What about a 3 or 4 feet long bar with a ring welded on one end (maybe under an angle?), slide the ring over the footrest, an push the kickstart pedal down this way?
Didn't try it though, so not sure if it 'll work
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #23 on: 22.12. 2012 22:26 »
I dont like to be the one to seem negative but if you are unable to kickstart a bike then its probably time to either fit an electric start to your BSA or go to a modern bike.

It would be easy to start a bike on a roller system but you cant carry that with you, if you stall it or stop it for any reason then your stuck.

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #24 on: 22.12. 2012 23:37 »
I share Brian's view; a couple of bikes to consider would be a XS1, XS2, or XS650 Yamaha, or a W800 Kawasaki.

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #25 on: 23.12. 2012 02:02 »
Not an XS1 as they only had kick start.  The XS2 had electric start.

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #26 on: 23.12. 2012 03:05 »
Thanks John; how could I forget!

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #27 on: 23.12. 2012 13:46 »
All depends upon where you ride & with who.
If for instance you are a member of a club and only ride on club runs then rollers to get you to the starting point is all you need.
After that another member will usually do the kicking when necessary and if the club is a good one then a member will always escort a senior member home.
We have a few members who still have & ride the BSA they bought new.
The only reason they ride is because it is their bike that they have owned since new.
At 70 + years old the novelty factor of riding has long gone and relearning reflex actions to enable them to ride a modern bike is not on.
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Re: roller starter
« Reply #28 on: 29.12. 2012 06:38 »
Reading Dutch's comment on "bump starting" the A10 reminds me of my youth when I wrote off the 33 500 Red Hunter and with the insurance money went to Deeprose Bros. in Catford South London and had the choice of an ex Surtees 500 Vincent Grey Flash or a 47 Norton 40M Manx.....bought the Manx for 100 pounds and fell right over it trying to bump start it. Got the hang of it though (neighbours weren't happy)...Getting back to the subject of starting the bike, I have been toying with the idea of making a set of rollers and using an old but good Makita polishing buff which is half the speed of an angle grinder and hopefully may be able to direct drive using the grinders 14mm threaded spindle. Once the A10 is ready to go I plan to run it on the rollers without the plugs in and check the oil circulation before an actual start. I can always pass it on to a friend who has a dodgy right knee for him to start his Series D Shadow....the selfish mongrel refuses to leave it to me in his will. The Shadow not the knee!! Cheers Gerry (I'm 74 years young)

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Re: roller starter
« Reply #29 on: 29.12. 2012 07:00 »
hi guys, get one of these, you`ll never need to kick start again,  www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDWqJe1dCgY  ,cheers
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