hello everybody, at last a result , not only does it start 1st/ 2nd/ kick it also stops on the button,thanks to all your help. I have cleaned/ scrubbed/ filed the earth all to no evail , taking note of how important the earth is ,i tested the carbon brush with my trusty tester and a current wouldnt pass thro so i found another carbon fitted it and hey presto problem solved (thanks for your offer ken) , wilko can rest now. what i cant understand is its the same brush that was in befor i had it repaired and it worked, they perhaps pack up suddely, once again thanks everybody, great learning curve
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