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Offline WozzA

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Storage Question
« on: 28.12. 2013 04:42 »
I hope someone can help with this one...  *????*
I have a friend who intends to store some bikes & parts in a shipping container, in a TROPICAL climate, ( Townsville QLD )
Cover the bikes with sheets / blankets, lock the door & forget about them for possibly 20 years..  *eek*
Any suggestions with protective coatings for chrome parts, paints, rubbers etc..   

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #1 on: 28.12. 2013 06:44 »
Condensation inside a supposedly sealed container is terrible & corrosion unbelievable !!!
I believe that ventilation & drying the air is essential .....

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #2 on: 28.12. 2013 07:11 »
If you don't mind me asking, what bikes? There is obviously a mystery here. Does he think it is an investment, or is he going into cryogenic suspension and wants to ride them when he emerges?

In an attempt to be helpful, maybe the best thing would be to have them profesionally vacuum sealed in PET film while in a very low humidity environment. Otherwise, there's always cosmoline.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #3 on: 28.12. 2013 10:15 »
Richard...   He's got 6 Harley's & a 69 Triumph Trophy... Boxes of new screaming eagle heads.. pistons, rods, 2 many sets of handlebars & cables to count, new wheels & mags etc.
He's had a stroke & will not be able to ride again..
The bikes will be stored for his Grand kids when they are old enough to appreciate them..
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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #4 on: 28.12. 2013 10:45 »
A friend was telling me his mate had suff in a storage container here. He left it for a couple of years and apparently would have been better off storing it underwater.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #5 on: 28.12. 2013 15:06 »
Very sorry about your friend's health, no disrespect intended by my attempted humor. I hope he is doing well.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #6 on: 28.12. 2013 15:42 »
In a way nearly right Richard, one may see it as using family as intermediate. Sorry for the person's health, and we all know things can happen sooner or later. I appreciate the idea behind his plan, maybe it's for dozen's of years, and big value both in $ and affection, should seek advice from storage\preservation specialists.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #7 on: 28.12. 2013 17:13 »
Wozza

Sea cans sweat in temperate or tropical environments causing all sorts of long term hate and discontent to anything or anybody that lives in them.

If they are insulated on the inside  and have a way to control the inside temperature/humidity they will be fine but it's a considerable expense to get a sea can to that state......but then again it sounds like the bikes to be stored have high value.

I would look at storage unit options in a building where the climate can be controlled or the pro vacuum seal Richard speaks of.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #8 on: 28.12. 2013 21:45 »
Storing objects like motorcycles for that period of time in a tropical climate is obviously going to present some problems, being in a enclosed steel container will only make matters worse. The best way to store things most times is in a dry well ventilated area, neither of which apply in this case. With the proposed storage system maybe a good soaking with a preservative oil (coating), covering up and then hope for the best.

I hope I dont come across as being harsh here as that is not my intention but maybe the family involved should all get together and have a really good hard think and discussion about the whole situation. Unfortunately I have lost count of the times I have seen someone go to extraordinary lengths to preserve a old motorcycle or car for their son/grandson only to see that vehicle being put up for sale the day after the original owner passed away.

Most of us with children all have ideas of passing on one or more of our bikes to them so they can continue on with our passion, nice idea but it seldom works. I have three sons, and a daughter, who all at some time were very enthusiastic about the old bikes and came with me to all sorts of events and rode on the pillion and later rode the bikes themselves. As the years go by and they get older they invariably look towards modern bikes and forget about the old ones. None of my four children have any interest whatsoever in vintage bikes anymore, they all still ride modern bikes but are just not interested in the old ones.

Unfortunately this is something we are all going to have to face sooner or later wether we like it or not, we will all have to decide to leave our bikes to someone or sell them. Personally I will sell all mine and leave the money to my kids, then they can go and buy something that they have a passion for, that may well be nothing to do with motorcycles but if its what they have a interest in then so be it.

Wozza I wish your friend the very best and I hope they come up with a suitable solution for storage if that is what they decide to do.

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #9 on: 28.12. 2013 22:15 »

If your friend is really serious, I think the he needs to put all his stuff in a sealed bag/container and chase all the air out with co2.
After all it's the oxygen in the air combined with humidity which causes metal things to rust, so the thing is to get the oxygen out.
We use this technique to ship printing presses overseas. They are sometimes up to 3 months under way, and always arrive without a single spot of rust in spite of the salty sea air which they have travelled through
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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #10 on: 29.12. 2013 00:07 »
I believe Brian has well described the situation with trying to pass along vintage motorcycles for purposes other than being sold off. I know I will have a hard decision, if I'm here to make it, about what to do with my bikes when I can no longer ride nor maintain them. So, Wozza, it seems you might end up in the position of family counselor, if you concur with Brian's take on the situation. I'm trying to think of the best saying to go with this - "In for a dime, in for a dollar", or, "No good deed goes unpunished".

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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #11 on: 29.12. 2013 11:44 »
Richard... No Offence taken buddy..  it's all good...   *wink2*
Unfortunately his health condition has put a end to his riding days..
I was just asking the question for the family..  so a container does'nt look like the solution..
We'll explore other avenues.. 
Thank's for the tips guys...  all appreciated... 
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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #12 on: 30.12. 2013 11:31 »
Yeah – it’s a difficult call all round. My daughters took against the whole thing having seen me in plaster too many times when they were young – and hobbling now. It might yet be that they will present me with more enthusiastic grandchildren, but in the meantime I have an understanding with my local bike shop that they will dispose of my stuff should I shuffle off prior.

A guy at work inherited a pristine Indian four which he doesn’t ride and has attempted to keep in perfect condition(s). He’s gone through a couple of environmental control set up and reckons it costs him more year on year to maintain that any increasing value of the bike. Long term loan to a museum has surely got to be the way to go.
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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #13 on: 30.12. 2013 17:28 »
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My daughters took against the whole thing having seen me in plaster too many times

Your not that limp wristed then  *smile*
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Re: Storage Question
« Reply #14 on: 03.01. 2014 06:06 »
Hi Wozza as you know I live in Tville and it gets very hot and steamy here in the summer. The humidity is unbelievable at times and after the rain moisture in the air is poison to bikes and parts stored in something like a container. I have my bikes and bits and pieces in dry but well ventilated sheds and they seem to be ok. I would look at a well ventilated storage shed somewhere or build one but definitely don't leave it sealed up cause they will rust like crazy. If they were BSAs I would be more worried but Harleys and Triumph no big deal plenty of them lol.
Personally I would take Brian's advice and sell them off and invest the money for the kids. I can understand the thinking that maybe the kids would have something to remember a parent or grandparent but then the kids are obliged to keep something they aren't really interested in. If they did become interested when they are older by the time they get the bikes they wont be in good condition and will need restoration which will cost them money. I know of a situation where a parent has died and had a collection of old bikes but there are several of the kids not interested at all and some are. So the ones that are interested now are compelled to buy the bikes from the rest of the family but it can get messy and cause family break down with prices etc. I know of another situation where a parent has died and his lovely old BSA is sitting in a shed but the family are not interested in it but will definitely not sell it they think its worth a million dollars. The bike has been there for many years and is getting more rusty as the years go by. By the time someone does get to restore it most of the tinware will be too far gone and the engine would be well and truly seized. I have 5 kids the youngest is 19 and none are interested in my old bikes at all.
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