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Offline Grammabud

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Side stand ???
« on: 04.02. 2014 21:21 »
My 1960 A7 frame doesn't have any obvious provisions to mount a side stand.  Is this correct?  
Is the only option to use a stand that clamps to the frame?

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #1 on: 04.02. 2014 22:19 »
Has somebody cut the lug off that was situated on the frame below and towards the front of the primary chaincase??  That's where the side stand fitted.

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #2 on: 04.02. 2014 22:57 »
If you go for a clamp on stand, weld the upper bracket to the frame.
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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #3 on: 05.02. 2014 00:01 »
If "they" did cut it off, they sure did a clean job.

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #4 on: 05.02. 2014 06:00 »
Not all a7/A10s have them, in fact I always thought a side stand frame lug was rare. Had several mates with A10s in Scotland, mine was the only one with a frame lug.

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #5 on: 05.02. 2014 06:48 »


 If you do weld to the frame- *ex* REMEMBER TO ISOLATE THE BATTERY...... *ex*

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #6 on: 05.02. 2014 07:55 »
A good means of mounting the upper half of the fitting is to tack weld in place and then braze for added strength, and to fill the joint, without excessive heat input and tube distortion.  That would be with the engine out, of course.l
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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #7 on: 05.02. 2014 20:19 »
If "they" did cut it off, they sure did a clean job.

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  I removed an upper lug which was brazed on, on my A-10, because it needed to be rotated so bike did not lean over so far when on the stand.  With a cold chisel the brazing came off totally clean, you could not tell it had been there at all.  Had no access to gas torch to re-braze in a more upright leaning position, so I drilled a small hole through bracket and frame, then tapped it with threads, and put a hardened allen head stud in with blue locktite.  It has been that a way for 8 years now with no problems.  The only concern that I had in doing it this way, was does it weaken the bottom frame rail enough to cause long term down the road problems, the pin hole was only 3/16 ths of an inch or so  ?? maybe a bit larger, not positive.
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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #8 on: 06.02. 2014 02:11 »
That sounds like a neat fix.

Having tapped the hole and threaded in a hardened screw, the frame shouldn't be compromised.

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #9 on: 06.02. 2014 09:15 »
Conversely my frame showed crush damage where the side stand had come loose and turned on the frame rail.
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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #10 on: 06.02. 2014 16:23 »
Just going through repair of the side stand and frame.  The frame showed signs of damage which has been welded and ground back to size.  The free half of the clamp was distorted out out round.  That has been heated and reformed to more like its original shape.  The bracket has also had some strengthening ribs welded on it to minimise any future distortion.  Pivot hole has been bushed and a new pivot bolt has been made.  Shim fitted to take out some clearance between the fork head.  Once the bike has been re-built, I will heat up the stand to ensure the correct lean.  Apart from that not much needed doing to it.  Still not bad for 55 years old.
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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #11 on: 06.02. 2014 17:38 »
My '59 A7SS certainly never had a sidestand when new.

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Re: Side stand ???
« Reply #12 on: 16.02. 2014 18:47 »
On older bikes side stand was an extra option because you had the center stand. Roy Bacon's book on BSA twin restoration would probably say whether yours had one new.