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Datingmanager
« on: 28.07. 2015 06:13 »
Hi Boys,
I've got a new bicke an  A7 with SA Frame. The original danish Paper tells Framenumbur BA 7 S  is build in1953.
Engine is Shooting Star.
To check up I please write to the datingmangaer from BSA OC to get a certificate.
Does anybody know the name and address from the aktual datingmanager?
Or a weblink to get this?
Thanks for helping

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Klaus


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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #1 on: 28.07. 2015 08:11 »
Mr. Steve Foden.  B.S.A.O.C. Librarian.

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Also, use the link on the BSAOC website http://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/machine.html
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #2 on: 28.07. 2015 08:57 »
GRRRRRRR saw the subject heading and thought time for the Old Spice again >:D
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #3 on: 28.07. 2015 22:38 »
BA7S is a plunger frame number.

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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #4 on: 29.07. 2015 15:55 »
BA7S is a plunger frame number.

Hello are you realy shure?
Framenumbers with BA7S ended with Number 20289 in 1957.
I thought always the last plunger was made in 1953, then introduce the Swinging Arm frame with model 1954.


Thank you for your helping hand.

Cheers
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #5 on: 29.07. 2015 19:14 »
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #6 on: 29.07. 2015 22:09 »
 
 What Trev said.....and Plunger frames were made up until '57
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #7 on: 30.07. 2015 07:43 »

 What Trev said.....and Plunger frames were made up until '57

This list shows only A10 Plungerframes where made up to 1957.
There is no listing for A7 with plunger after 1954.

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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #8 on: 30.07. 2015 12:30 »
I've heard plunger bikes were favoured for sidecar use so maybe that is consistent with bsa only making a10 not a7 with plunger frames after the swing arm was introduced  *dunno*

But it's not always possible to tell if a frame was originally for an a7 or a10 purely from the frame number without consulting the despatch records as they are generally all prefixed "xA7".

The VMCC UK can also access the bsa despatch records, and provide certificates, I'm not sure if they own the records or the bsa club.
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #9 on: 30.07. 2015 13:02 »
I understand the VMCC got there data from the British Library when it ran out of room and that the BSAOC got theres from the factory when it closed ,they had close links with Alistair Cave ,who I think, was  works manager at small heath and He may have had something to do with it ,I do know that there service(bsaoc ) is second to none, Bob
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #10 on: 30.07. 2015 13:03 »
I've heard plunger bikes were favoured for sidecar use so maybe that is consistent with bsa only making a10 not a7 with plunger frames after the swing arm was introduced  *dunno*

But it's not always possible to tell if a frame was originally for an a7 or a10 purely from the frame number without consulting the despatch records as they are generally all prefixed "xA7".

The VMCC UK can also access the bsa despatch records, and provide certificates, I'm not sure if they own the records or the bsa club.

Hence my question to the datingmanager.
This bike is also stocked with Acront Alloyrims I gues it was customer wish. The Tank  wear a 4 inch tank badge with the Goldstar.

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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #11 on: 30.07. 2015 13:23 »
Klaus, I think BSA were quite unique in there build and supply policy . It seemed to be that something was discontinued but could be obtained -if the right person was asked or a good connection exited ie over here the AA wanted there outfits as they had always been made  and BSA supplied even though that model had been discontinued yrs before . If they found the parts they could build 'em and did with whatever was to hand hence a lot of the weird things that we all come across  . Not economic sense but that's the way it was explaine dto me by people who were in the trade then. Bob
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #12 on: 30.07. 2015 22:07 »

 Screen shots from Spares book '54-'57; pages 2 & 32; P. 2 clearly includes A7 Plunger models, P.32 ("Plunger frame 'A' Group") doesn't specify A10 only, or exclude A7, so what Kiwi and Topdad say may well be the case
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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #13 on: 30.07. 2015 22:25 »
Maybe, just maybe, someone has restamped the frame? A swinging arm frame from that era should be CA7. No "S" suffix.
I would be very surprised if any A7 or A10 came out of the factory with alloy rims in 1953, Akront or Dunlop.

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Re: Datingmanager
« Reply #14 on: 31.07. 2015 02:40 »
Maybe, just maybe, someone has restamped the frame? A swinging arm frame from that era should be CA7. No "S" suffix.
I would be very surprised if any A7 or A10 came out of the factory with alloy rims in 1953, Akront or Dunlop.

I agree with Trevor; a 1953 swing arm frame, yeah right! with a plunger number . sounds like a number job to get a bike past the bureaucrats or police.
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