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Title: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: bl**dydrivers on 30.11. 2017 00:38
My original dynamo was rotten, most of the parts required replacing, even questioned the final finish of the body as this was rusted too and I’ve sourced a complete Lucas E3L dynamo.

Would like to send it out to UK to get reconditioned, but most don’t deal with US and or Canadian customers.

Have found this company, they do deal with US customers, wondering if anybody have used them and if any opinions?

http://www.dynamoregulatorconversions.com
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: JulianS on 30.11. 2017 09:56
You can do the job yourself - all the parts are available - new armature, new field coil, new brushes , new bearings and fixings.

Saves heavy transatlantic postage costs for the whole instrument 2 ways.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: bl**dydrivers on 30.11. 2017 13:43
Have no doubt I can do it myself, but I want it looking like new being plated, blasted and obviously working.

What metal is used for platting the body?
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: JulianS on 30.11. 2017 14:15
The original my A10 was cadmium, use of which is now frowned upon.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: coater87 on 30.11. 2017 15:47
 Yup,

 Cadmium is super expensive if you can even find anyone that will do your small order.

 Used mostly now for aviation and military, they are the only ones that can afford it anyway.

 I had my housing nickle plated, and rebulit the whole thing. You dont see much of it anyway when all is said and done, and nickle or chrome is available to us.

 I am sure some places in the far east still do cheap Cadmium, but they dont really mind dumping the used chemicals right in a river. It makes the Tilapia taste better maybe... *eek*

 Lee
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Butch (cb) on 30.11. 2017 17:04
They did me a voltage reg carefully fitted into the original box for my Nimbus. Nice job but wasn't cheap.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: trevinoz on 30.11. 2017 20:13
The bodies were nickel plated until about 1951 and cadmium plated thereafter.

I get them done in zinc. The finished product depends on the condition of the body before plating.
Most bodies have some corrosion on them, which we just have to live with.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: bl**dydrivers on 30.11. 2017 20:55
Could get the body cadmium plated here, not sure on price though for such a small item and then send it all out.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: coater87 on 30.11. 2017 23:17
Could get the body cadmium plated here, not sure on price though for such a small item and then send it all out.

 I'm in the U.S. too, if you find someone that will do small orders can you post it?

 I looked, but no luck at all. Maybe if I was doing 500 bodies at once, but certainly not one or two.

 Lee
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: duTch on 01.12. 2017 02:54

 I haven't done it but from reports am sure that getting the field coil in/out can be challenging, which you need to do if re- coating...

 It's possible to do your own  zinc putt nickel electroplating, I'll dob in GB here..(?)... who if I recall had a go at it or knows more than I do....
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: groily on 01.12. 2017 08:50
Field coils can be a pain to fit without the 'right' weapons (mini-jack, wheeldriver, whatever, as per the literature).
However, with an E3L it's not so bad if you use 2 lengths of 5/16th BSF studding and nuts to haul the pole piece up to the yoke in gentle stages, having warmed the coil with a hairdrier beforehand to help it assume the necessary shape. When flush, put in new pole shoe screws, do 'em up good and tight and all should be well. You'll even have unchewed slots in the screw heads if you use a good-fitting scrooge.

For getting the screws out, I and many others use a large centre drill and simply take the c/sunk heads clean off, leaving the dyn body unmarked.  The rest of the screws will come out of the pole piece easily afterwards. A chunky centre drill won't wander  . . . . Far better than hitting things with impact drivers, chisels etc, which risks damage to  and distortion of the yoke.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Greybeard on 01.12. 2017 10:28

 I haven't done it but from reports am sure that getting the field coil in/out can be challenging, which you need to do if re- coating...

 It's possible to do your own  zinc putt nickel electroplating, I'll dob in GB here..(?)... who if I recall had a go at it or knows more than I do....


Yes, I did manage to zinc plate some bits and bobs. Do a net search to see how. There is probably a YouTube video.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: trevinoz on 01.12. 2017 22:07
Here's some that I recently had plated.
I tried doing it with a home kit but it just wasn't possible.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: bl**dydrivers on 09.12. 2017 00:57
Did you get that plated with cadmium or zinc? Got a nice yellowish color and I’m thinking cadmium.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: trevinoz on 10.12. 2017 00:04
They are not yellowish at all but are a nice silver.
They are plated in bright zinc.
After time they will dull to a greyish colour.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Peter Gee on 14.02. 2018 10:18
I do mine in passivated white/bright zinc plating..any plating shop will do this job easily..... after a year or two of ageing they take on a nice duller "cadmium" look. However it is possible to do small batch cadmium plating in USA..go onto the Vincent Owners Club on Facebook and ask them..lots of restorers do it so someone is handlin small batch.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Rex on 14.02. 2018 13:02
Make sure the plater uses so-called colourless zinc plating as this is the nice silver colour. The yellow version is passivated and looks crap. I haven't been able to get cad plate done for many years as the water companies don't like toxic chemicals being poured down the community drains..
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: bl**dydrivers on 14.02. 2018 13:06
Make sure the plater uses so-called colourless zinc plating as this is the nice silver colour. The yellow version is passivated and looks crap. I haven't been able to get cad plate done for many years as the water companies don't like toxic chemicals being poured down the community drains..

I wonder if that’s going to change with Brexit  *bash*
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Rex on 14.02. 2018 17:49
Worse than that, the water's going to go down the plug hole in the opposite direction post-Brexit. *sad2*
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: RoyC on 15.02. 2018 06:55
Worse than that, the water's going to go down the plug hole in the opposite direction post-Brexit. *sad2*

Can't wait to re-join the rest of the world.   *smile*
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: vemmi on 12.09. 2024 18:05
I have a question related finish of these part. Okay Strap and dynamo body to be zinc coated. what about the the cap: painted black or zinc plated?
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: limeyrob on 12.09. 2024 18:43
The end caps were black as supplied.
Title: Re: Dynamo reconditioning
Post by: Slymo on 23.09. 2024 23:20
Had mine done in nickel. It looked inappropriately sparkly for a bit but calmed down quite quickly to an even grey.