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Offline RichardL

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #15 on: 16.08. 2024 13:08 »
Anyone else happen to notice that removeing the rocker box is a lot easier than installing it?  *smile*

Anyway.. yeah, what I found might just be the cause of the leak. A lot worse than I expected, which was just a little fold-over of the gasket. The broken-off piece can be seen laying on top of the lifters.

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #16 on: 16.08. 2024 21:13 »
G'day Richard.
Prick of a job ain't it. Would have been a lot worse if it was the exhaust side and blocked the drain hole!
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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #17 on: 24.08. 2024 20:20 »
In my experience the push-rod combs are often not quite right.  The locating slots for the studs are too narrow.  Its worth checking and taking a file to the comb to get it to sit right.
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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #18 on: 25.08. 2024 20:42 »
G'day Rob.
I have two combs. One for the A7 with std pushrods and the other modified one for the Cafe with tapered alloy pushrods that are fatter.
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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #19 on: 26.08. 2024 11:52 »
Not sure why you need copper Gaskets, if your mating surfaces are flat they will seal, when i firat assemble a engine the rocker boxes are flattened on plate glass with gringing past, steel heads are normally good but alloy ones often have the incerts pulled up and need flatteng, both alloy and steel heads can be surfaced if needed

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #20 on: 26.08. 2024 12:03 »
i sorted mine a few years ago and now i notice a slight weep , nothing to write home about but maybe it's because she gets some stick.

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #21 on: 26.09. 2024 04:35 »
 I don't know if anyone else has the same thing or not.

 My bike does not leak oil, unless I get spirited with the downshift and over run. That is the only time my rocker boxes will leak a little oil.

 I clean it up, drive more carefully and no more leaking. It's weird

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #22 on: 26.09. 2024 10:45 »
When leaks are prone to occur at high RPM, wont I am to lay blame on insufficient crankcase breathing.

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #23 on: 26.09. 2024 13:09 »
I didn’t report at the time, but replacement of conventional gaskets seems to have done the trick for any concerning leakage at the rocker box. At the same time, leaks at the bottom from various seams and the sump plate must be ignored (for now) in favor of riding. Not enough to require increased oil drilling internationally, nor drain the tank on any ride out.

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #24 on: 26.09. 2024 18:13 »
I've never found leaks a problem on British bikes so long as no one has levered a screwdriver in the joint face (as many seem to do *angry* ) or stripped the threads *sad2*, or its a pressed primary chain-case which are just about impossible to keep oil tight  *pull hair out* .  The original gaskets were thin and the period replacements were little more than brown paper so joints always showed some staining and the odd weep but then a lot of shafts (gear change, kick start ) had no oil seals.  But a slight oil film was normal and not unwelcome and kept the bikes corrosion free.
I don't subscribe to the modern trend for bone dry machinery, bikes cars what ever, I like to see a bit of oil.
My old Land Rover is still going strong at 54 years partly because the rope crank seals and direct-to-outside engine breather have kept the chassis moist with oil.  If I look underneath and there's no oil, that's when I worry.  The "leak-a-bit-check-oil-weekly" cars and bikes will outlast the "bone-dry-top-up-at-10,000mile-service" cars.
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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #25 on: 27.09. 2024 20:30 »
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But a slight oil film was normal and not unwelcome and kept the bikes corrosion free.

Definitely.  My centre stand will last for another 100 years with the amount of oil it gets on it. *eek*

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #26 on: 24.10. 2024 12:14 »
I seem to disagree here. I have tried copper gaskets on both my A10 and a Rocket Three and both times they leaked. I removed them fitted ordinary gaskets and leaks stopped. I have bought a set of aluminium gaskets which I aim to try hopefully with better luck.

Maybe I am doing something wrong but I even tried annealing them with no success


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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #27 on: 24.10. 2024 12:39 »
Copper gaskets did not help my A10 either. Ground the head/box joint with grinding paste and used an SRM gasket now no leaks.

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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #28 on: 24.10. 2024 14:18 »
Just started doing the head leak on the A7 and was planning to use my long time in stock set of copper rocker gaskets when I reassemble. Will report back on the result when its together and running again.
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Re: rocker box leak
« Reply #29 on: 25.10. 2024 13:27 »
Copper gaskets did not help my A10 either. Ground the head/box joint with grinding paste and used an SRM gasket now no leaks.
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Strange that because I went to a one piece SRM gasket and now perfect no leaks anywhere. Interestingly I did not have to do the grinding paste trick the one piece gasket worked perfectly


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