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Custodian of an A10
« on: 25.08. 2019 23:08 »
Hi,my father bought an A10 Golden Flash brand new in 1951 that was used until mid 1960's when life got in the way and it was parked up in his garage.Many attempts over the years to get him to resurrect it failed.Sadly he died Dec 2017 aged 92.So the task of resurrecting it will begin.It's surprisingly rust free, most of the chrome has fallen off.But no rust in tanks or engine.I'm hoping to use it as it is, strip it down and replace only necessary parts.We found some pictures of him on it,and took one as we found it.Hope to update as i go and use the very useful knowledge on here to help.
Dads 1951 A10

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #1 on: 25.08. 2019 23:17 »
Fantastic project. Will you be able to do much of the work yourself?
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #2 on: 26.08. 2019 00:01 »
Welcome to the forum... Great looking bike, your in the right place for information to get her back up & running..  Looks like your dad had you in mind with a couple of machines stored away for your retirement project..    *loveit*   *yeah*
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #3 on: 26.08. 2019 00:18 »
Now there's a family heirloom worth having. Great - for your dad's memory.

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #4 on: 26.08. 2019 02:32 »
Welcome Roy

Great history and wonderful project

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #5 on: 26.08. 2019 07:42 »
Thanks for intro, great story and pictures. Welcome aboard.


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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #6 on: 26.08. 2019 10:56 »
Welcome to a great place for advice and support. My Dad lives on through me. Which way do you think you'll go resto wise. Full nut and bolt rebuild and better than factory finish or wipe with oily rag and put some fresh petrol in. As GB always says "no need to worry about the sludge trap".
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #7 on: 26.08. 2019 11:25 »
As GB always says "no need to worry about the sludge trap".
Don't listen to him!
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #8 on: 26.08. 2019 12:49 »
 Here is my take on your bike. You are indeed fortunate to have an original and hopefully unmolested machine with a known history. Its present condition is the result of the various stages of initial care, daily use and finally discarded as life's changes come along. A complete strip, and a better than new rebuild is all very well, but whether farmed out to specialists or DIY, the paint and polish costs mount up, and you will loose the essential time worn charm of a rare original survivor.

 As it stands, my feeling is that for the time being you would be better off producing a reliable, running and useable bike, without the expense of a grand restoration to the finish.  Clean off the flaky rust with a Scotchbrite pad and coat with water based satin finish clear varnish. This retains the existing patina, prevents further deterioration and is easily removed if you decide to go for a full cosmetic upgrade. Don't just rip it to bits, we have all done this, forgotten where parts go and damaged parts in a headlong rush to get it done.

 Have a look for the paperwork, if the original documents are lost retaining the original number  is straightforward, but may require an inspection of the machine by an authorised agent of the DVLA. They will want to see a complete machine, not a pile of parts..

 Have a good look at the finer details on this very forum, you will find plenty to  point you in the right direction. Anything that you don't understand, however daft it seems, just ask and save a sleepless night.

 

 Welcome to the forum, keep us posted.

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #9 on: 26.08. 2019 13:32 »
Wow! Welcome to the forum. That's an amazing time capsule of a project you have there. So much to gaze into. Love the mudguard ornament (still there) but can't really tell what it is. In the "now" picture there appears to be a headlight brow piece laying on the mudguard, but does not appear in Dad's picture.

I am of the opinion that this needs to be a "survivor" bike, kept mostly as is while treated to a cleanup and mechanical go-through. Total cosmetic restoration can happen in the future, but it will only be like it is now once. Trust me, there are vintage specialists out there who will advise to leave all grime and dust in place. That might be something to look into with an expert on the topic, with regard to the cash value.

Wiped clean (per Swarfy) or left funky, I believe the engine should be stripped down to sludge-trap-cleaning level, fixing all else in the engine (and carb, and magneto, and dynamo) along the way. (The sludge trap lives at the core of the crankshaft and is known to be the cause of engine failure when left unattended after decades of down time. DAMHIK.)

Obviously, all safety and control elements must be confirmed in good knick.

Then, there is the seat. The foam will collect moisture and cause the seat pan to rust badly. The condition of the pan, foam and cover should be confirmed. Original pans are hard to come by and rust (even rust-through) can be repaired to great satisfaction.

So, whereabouts are you located (not asking for the address) and what would you like us to call you other than "Roy's Boy"?

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #10 on: 26.08. 2019 13:47 »
Welcome Roy.
Great bike, I like the number plate.
I bet that engine really UMMZZZ.   *smile*

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #11 on: 26.08. 2019 14:41 »
roys51a10,
Are you in the first photo?
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #12 on: 26.08. 2019 15:26 »
welcome to the mad house *welcome* . well it is when some of us are on , no names mentioned *shh* a fine beezer you have there and it will put a big grin on your face *grins*

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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #13 on: 26.08. 2019 15:54 »
 Hiya robo- I'm in the 'do as little as necessary to get it up and running camp', ie; as you may need to check the drive sprocket which involves pulling the lump out of the frame, is a good time to just strip it down and give the aforementioned internals a cleanup- otherwise as Swarfo says a rubdown of the flaky stuff and I find a 50/50 solution of phosphoric acid cleans any surface rust up encouragingly well (I used a stiff short bristle wire brush- like a barby brush).....I'm curious how well the spotties work  *eek*

 .......I also like the rego number
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Re: Custodian of an A10
« Reply #14 on: 27.08. 2019 16:04 »
What a fantastic project , with the family connection I'd be very protective of it's originality ,if I rubbed to much dust and oil off I'd feel I was wiping away memories of  your Father . It'll be great to see her back running and as been said putting a massive grin on your face , enjoy ,oh and welcome to this wonderful forum  *welcome*
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