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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #15 on: 24.11. 2021 06:27 »
I don't see why the BSA name should not achieve the same success as Triumph and Norton. I'd love to see something like the Kawasaki W800 as a new BSA.

I wonder if the first bike will be a rebadged Jawa.

Success ?
all the name Norton has done in the past 30 years is gobble up millions and send investors broke
Triumph was only gone for short periods
Iy has been 50 years since BSA was on the sides of a petrol tank
The Gold SR did not seem to do too much good for BSA -Regal
add to that Norton had a name for being exciting.
BSA was what you bought for going to work or inherited from an old uncle , hoping the Bantam was really a Gold Star .
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #16 on: 24.11. 2021 10:09 »
But as we know, any young buyers will not be aware of the history of BSA. The appeal will be the retro appeal of other legendary British bike brands, Royal Enfield, Triumph, Norton and Matchless.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #17 on: 24.11. 2021 10:34 »
They are all trading on a name take away the name and what have you got a nice looking bike but would not sell enough in numbers to justify production costs, Also because they have to meet modern regulations as to noise etc they cannot sound like the originals I suspect that what some owners will do will be like some harley owners they fit after market silencers to give the sound they want but when they go for an MOT they have change back to the orignal silencers or they will fail. Before the pandemic I was in town and went into a modern motocycle showroom to look at the new Royal Enfield Interceptor just out of curiosity it was a nice looking bike bike but nothing like the original Interceptor,. years ago I had a Royal Enfield Constellation which the Interceptor replace maybe that was why I went in to have a look.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #18 on: 24.11. 2021 11:23 »
Of course any modern bike will bear little resemblance to a classic design. Anyone who's hoping for a brand new Gold Star or Golden Flash is deluded. I do not have a problem with a modern retro styled motorbike carrying the BSA badge. If the Kawasaki W800 had been branded as a BSA I would have been delighted.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #19 on: 24.11. 2021 13:19 »
I don’t think there is any argument that Triumph have made a success and done well out of their modern era range. The Rocket III is very much a flagship and niche model so whether many have sold and whether money was made on that particular model is probably moot. However there was not so long between sales of the Les Harris Bonnevilles ending and the marketing of the all new models – all in line with Bloor’s plan I presume.  And he chose to go head to head with the Japanese in terms of models at the outset at least. Interesting though just how popular the later introduced retro models have proven to be.

Looking at other successful retros, we can consider both Guzzi and Enfield or Harley of course, who actually have an unbroken line of production, and an outdated range of machines that then naturally fit into a retro theme now.

Of the others, and I’m not sure how well Kawasaki’s W650 and W800 range actually did - you don’t actually see many of them about at all, so it may be that has been no great success story at all. Maybe the Chinese tiddlers, and that may be more due to being competitive on price.
If you want to use one of the old brands now, whether it be BSA or Norman, Francis Barnett or any of the others you’re not going to get fat on sales to old duffers like us. If you are looking to the hipster market then for sure you want a lot of cool branded old school looking accessories and apparel.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #20 on: 24.11. 2021 14:11 »
When production of the Royal Enfield Bullet went to India over the years they did modernise it but if You took the Royal Enfield badge off it you would still be able to recognise it as a Bullit and it did sell well this cannot be said for the new Interceptor or most of the new modern retro bikes,as I say take the name off and it could be anything. I am not expecting Mahindra to reproduce a Gold Flash or Gold Star, but I would hope that if you took the name off you would still be able to recognise it as a BSA.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #21 on: 24.11. 2021 15:16 »
.... I would hope that if you took the name off you would still be able to recognise it as a BSA.
I can pretty much guarantee there will be nothing in common with the classic bike except the badge and the model name. What's the bet's the first model will be a single so will be named Gold Star. 😉 We'll be lucky if it has spoked wheels.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #22 on: 24.11. 2021 16:17 »
Very true, though we can at least console ourselves with the thought that even if BSA had managed to continuously exist up to the present day, the bikes it would be producing now would also have no connection to the bikes we recognise as the BSAs from 1960s/70s Small Heath.
Retro nostalgia is a niche market and will only sell so many bikes.

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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #23 on: 24.11. 2021 19:40 »
THis was posted on the vincent website: https://www.vincentownersclub.co.uk/threads/bsa-return-of-a-legend.16272/
"2nd December 2021.

National Motorcycle Museum, Coventry Road, Bickenhill, Solihull, West Midlands B92 0EJ

Timelessness is a pursuit, and for BSA, it has come to fruition.

As The BSA Company is ready to begin its next chapter, BSA are pleased to invite you for an exclusive preview of the newest BSA motorcycle and a showcase of the shape of things to come.

Dress code: Business smart

Exclusive access to the National Motorcycle Museum after the show.

https://www.bsacompany.co.uk/rsvp/ "

I hope some of you brits can get us some real pictures!
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #24 on: 24.11. 2021 20:47 »
Looking closely at the "Return of a Legend" image, above, they're giving some hints. as in low bars, on-top tach and speedo, etc. I'm not sure they were counting on some enthusiast (uuh? nutcase?) running photo editor on their image.

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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #25 on: 24.11. 2021 20:59 »
I was hoping for a bit more from the main site https://www.bsacompany.co.uk/, but I'm still none the wiser.

Appreciate it wont be "proper" goldie or road rocket or rocket 3, but I'm still very interested to see what they come up with, the rumour mill seems to suggest its a 650 single with a lot of preunit swing arm model tells like the oil tank shape (from the india pictures in camo). It even appeared to have a dynamo external cover a bit like a B33 ???

Hopefully we'll soon see and not be too disappointed.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #26 on: 24.11. 2021 21:08 »
Ultimately is anyone on this list really going to buy one whatever they look like?
I rather doubt it.

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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #27 on: 24.11. 2021 23:01 »
Ultimately is anyone on this list really going to buy one whatever they look like?
I rather doubt it.
I might, so I can still attend BSAOC club weekends on a bike I can start easily. Probably not though.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #28 on: 25.11. 2021 01:45 »
Ultimately is anyone on this list really going to buy one whatever they look like?
I rather doubt it.
I might, so I can still attend BSAOC club weekends on a bike I can start easily. Probably not though.
I dont currently own anything modern, so may be tempted. but we wont see them in NZ for a while. I like middleweights and a 650 single should be light and punchy. I did briefly float the idea of an oilfield constipation but they dont really do it for me. Quite likely the new BSA may be the same. When BSA released the B50 goldstar SS, they copped a lot of flak for using the sacred name on a glorified tiger cub. I'm still very interested to see what they come up with.
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Re: New BSA mentioned in BBC news feed
« Reply #29 on: 25.11. 2021 02:18 »
mahindra did a good job with the jawa, so I'm not writing this off yet, give me a couple of weeks...
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