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E10 is coming
« on: 23.06. 2021 18:08 »
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #1 on: 23.06. 2021 18:18 »
does that sign mean it will soon be known as normal petrol then they will put more into normal petrol but it will not be normal anymore but then become normal..... o dear rambling on today bergs *countdown* *beer* *beer* i

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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #2 on: 23.06. 2021 18:47 »
Pretty soon we'll be paying 4 times "normal" petrol prices. I'm going to have mine converted to run on vodka, it'll be cheaper
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #3 on: 23.06. 2021 20:47 »
I read somewhere that the 'super' (as apposed to 'normal') will stay E5 due to classic vehicles

I think it was on https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/maintenance-and-gear/everything-you-need-to-know-about-using-e10-fuel-with-your-classic-car/
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #4 on: 23.06. 2021 21:00 »
Let's not forget apart from the damage to fuel lines, dissolving fibreglass fuel tanks and other mayhem, ethanol in fuel has caused a sharp increase in food prices for poorer countries as food crops give way to fuel crops. Oh, and as the E number rises, your MPG goes down.
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #5 on: 24.06. 2021 01:41 »
Chris - that Hegarty link was interesting, along with this one (click through from that one) about actual tests with E10 and old SU carbs:
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remember when lead was being removed and the sky was falling? i've recently read up on the introduction of lead to fuels and the frank conspiracy of the companies that marketed it to silence health data. the world was worse for having it.

I think I can tolerate replacing a few seals, soldered floats and hoses to damage the world a little less. never liked fibreglass tanks anyway.
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #6 on: 24.06. 2021 08:33 »
I've been using high octane in all my bikes for some time - partly in the hope that these are more likely to have no ethanol at all. Even so I've found that fuel lines seem to have become a service item now. On my iron head bikes I also dose up with Castrol valve master - whether it is snake oil or not I do few enough miles on those that the additional cost is minimal. Certainly in the UK pumps will be required to be labelled up - either E5 or E10.
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #7 on: 24.06. 2021 09:33 »
Once new petrol vehicle sales cease expect fuel prices to rise extremely quickly .
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #8 on: 24.06. 2021 10:23 »
 This increase in alcohol content is an attempt to improve emissions.  Here in the UK they are rolling out ULEZ Zones (Ultra Low Emission Zone) in several major cities.  Motorcycles are currently exempt under this new ruling, and I understand tax exempt vehicles are as well. A little loophole that includes all types of historic vehicles.  Military Vehicles are also exempt. How weird is that? If your vehicle does not conform to the low emission standard and is not exempt, you can still enter the zone, but the ANPR System (Big Brother) will clock you. The system will allow you to pay before entering the zone, or soon after leaving it. No pay......big fine.

  They won't improve the roads to allow easier travel, any update or improvement to inner city roads and simple traffic management is a long time coming and authority is content to let the populace sit in endless tailbacks, all stationary, all running the AirCon and making more unnecessary pollution. Now while your choice of vehicle  is entirely up to you, there is a trend for ever larger 4X4's typically ferrying the kids to school.  You'd think a trend to smaller vehicles would be good for the planet and make better use of road space and parking. But that's not where the money is and we get what we get. Fiddle while Rome burns? Yup.

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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #9 on: 24.06. 2021 13:56 »
Here in the UK they are rolling out ULEZ Zones (Ultra Low Emission Zone) in several major cities.  Motorcycles are currently exempt under this new ruling, and I understand tax exempt vehicles are as well.

I don't think that motorcycles are exempt from ULEZ, not in London anyway. Historic vehicles are.
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #10 on: 24.06. 2021 22:50 »
When I first read, "E10 is coming" in the list of posts, I was expecting a report from Mahindra that their electric motorcycle would be named "E10" in homage to our A10s.

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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #11 on: 24.06. 2021 22:51 »
When I first read, "E10 is coming" in the list of posts, I was expecting a report from Mahindra that their electric motorcycle would be named "E10" in homage to our A10s.

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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #12 on: 25.06. 2021 11:18 »
Once new petrol vehicle sales cease expect fuel prices to rise extremely quickly .

We will probably have to buy it from the chemists again, LOL.
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #13 on: 08.10. 2021 16:39 »
When I parked today I put a plastic bag across the filler neck before putting the cap back on. I'm hoping that this will keep water vapour out of the E5/E10 fuel mixture in the tank. Thoughts?
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Re: E10 is coming
« Reply #14 on: 08.10. 2021 20:16 »
G'day GB.
I don't think it will make any difference in such a short time unless it's piffing down rain.
Make it a big bag! We don't want you to come to a spluttering stop a few miles down the road from fuel starvation when it's forgotten.
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