Manchester Ship Canal RGS

[Greybeard]

I daren't say how much paid for it!!!

I understand that;  I persuaded myself to pay a lot for a NOS side-stand.

[Topdad]

With what I though a permanently useless left leg (now ok thank God ) I did the same GB and don't regret doing so !

[chaterlea25]

Hi Trev,
I see what you mean now about the "window" type
Thanks
John

[Bsalloyd]

Is this the bike that picture were posted after retrieval from the canal? If so could you direct me to where they were posted? You have done a very beautiful restore in record time. I hope you get to enjoy many miles and smiles riding it. Lloyd L

[CheeserBeezer]

Is this the bike that picture were posted after retrieval from the canal? If so could you direct me to where they were posted? You have done a very beautiful restore in record time. I hope you get to enjoy many miles and smiles riding it. Lloyd L

Hi Bsalloyd. I think it's here
https://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php?topic=16757.msg143819#msg143819
The topic was originally entitled 'Mersey RGS' but to be precise it was dredged out of the Manchester Ship Canal which runs parallel to the Mersey at the point where it was found.

[Bsalloyd]

I appreciate you providing this information. I own a 1963 RGS that did not come with the rear mudguard. So I was needing the mounting details that your photos show. Thank you, Lloyd L

[chaterlea25]

Hi All,
I finally found a "window" type ammeter that looks in good condition, I have a new bezel if needed for it
As usual eyewatering price 

I have not gone near the RGS project in several years    It has cost more than I would ever get for it judging from recent UK prices

John

[Rex]

Going by recent UK prices it's probably cost you 2X or even 3X what you might get for it now.

[sean]

whats the back ground story on this bike was it stolen ?
How did it end up in the drink ?
Nice job on the restoration 

[trevinoz]

Only problem John is it is for an alternator. Needs to be 8 Amp.
Beggars can't be choosers.

[CheeserBeezer]

whats the back ground story on this bike was it stolen ?
How did it end up in the drink ?
Nice job on the restoration 

There are various stories circulating locally! Obviously, if a bike ends up in a canal it (probably) didn't happen by accident. Extensive research into official channels did not reveal anything suspicious and the bike's finders had the wisdom to secure the original registration number from the DVLA. I, personally, visited the records office in Chester and found the original registration record. The Owners' Club provided a dating certificate and acknowledged the original engine and frame. IT is HPI clear. The instruments were knackered, so I couldn't read the mileage but wear and tear on things like the brake pads would suggest the bike was very low mileage. The right hand handlebar had a significant amount worn away which suggests the bike had been dropped at speed and the headlamp had been changed. It is surprising how much of the bike was restorable and, of course, some of the components are interchangeable with the Super Rocket and Gold Star. I still have some of the parts which I consider to be beyond repair. I kept them to make sure anything I fitted matched the originals. The bike was extensively covered in "Real Classic" magazine in November and December 2023.

[chaterlea25]

Hi All,
Hi Trevor,
At least it will be an original Lucas ammeter only you and me (now)will know the difference

Luckily (or not) I have almost all the expensive jobs and parts ready to build the RGS,
I'm short the wiring loom, silencer and some headlamp parts.
The engine has the SRM conversion , new rods, Wiseco pistons  etc
RRT2 gearbox with lots of new parts and hopefully a low first gear ( needs to be assembled) .
The frame  need's new stand pivots and a repair to where the side stand fits, then a paint job on it and the oil tank and toolboxes.
I have all new chrome work and the original petrol tank  is fully restored.

All I need is the enthusiasm  to do it or a serious cash offer

John

[berger]

hi john when i sold my rrt2 i kept the lower first gear combination of 17 -26 , if it's any good to you?

[spanersc]

Hi John.  I'm fairly certain that the correct illuminated ammeter for an RGS is a  8-0-8 unit and not a 12-0-12 as you have shown. Not wanting to be the bearer of bad news but this later unit is easier and more affordable to find as it was used across the range of several manufacturers, and probably the reason why its often seen on 'genuine' copies. The 8amp one for 6 volt bikes is a rarer item. Perhaps other owners/experts could verify this. Cheers, Pete

[chaterlea25]

Hi Berger
Thank you for thinking about me regarding the gears, Is the mainshaft one for an RRT2 box or standard?
I need to get the gearbox and parts down of its shelf and go through what is there,
It maybe a while before Iget back to you as I was in the hospital today for pain relief treatment on my back Once the local anasthetic wears off I maybe crook for a while 

Pete,
Trevor also pointed this out to me
The bike will more than likely be 12v when I get it done 
I am finding it more difficult to spend productive time in the workshop due to creaking joints
I have felt the cold more than ever this winter    F*&K getting old 

John