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New here...maybe
« on: 22.05. 2026 09:48 »
Howdy,

I have a 1954 A10 plunger which I restored a few years ago (30 years ago! It should be illegal for "a few" to turn into 30). I "documented" the resto on a website which I still have hanging around at BSA Golden Flash...which in itself hasn't been updated in almost 20 years. Ah, well. I have a blog of my automotive and bike adventures, also sporadically updated, at Rusty Heaps, which has some BSA stuff here and there.

I haven't ridden the machine much since I restored it...keep meaning to, but it has always been a hard starter and recently a very hard starter. I think I have fixed that, though. When I first built the bike, my machinist gave me a mark on the primary side of the crank which he said was TDC or close enough to help me with my initial timing, and I used that to set the mag and that was that. Hard to start but ran pretty well once going so must be ok, right?

This winter I was working on my Austin 7 and perusing an article on timing that machine I read the line "if you set the timing very far advanced the engine will probably run well...if you can ever get it started" and a very faint bell went off in the fat-filled corners of my brain. I got the A10 manual out and read through the timing section and realized I had never actually gone through the book procedure for setting the timing.

I made myself a tool for measuring the piston position out of an old spark plug and some drill rod, grumbled and groaned, and got down to it. I was disappointed (but not surprised) that all of these years I'd been running with the timing about 30% too far advanced! Which it would sometimes start at but often not...worst when "lukewarm". I live on an island and the ferry to civilization is about 30 minutes, the perfect amount of cool-off time to make a restart basically impossible. You can only push a bike off a ferry so many times before you give up on riding it onto one, especially if it's low tide and the loading ramp to the dock looks like the Matterhorn.

Anyway, I now need to sort out the tank again as it's gone a bit rusty. I've lined it twice, first lasted about 10 years, second about the same. Last time I said "no more lining" and just did a thorough clean but that was not a brilliant plan, so going to try lining it again. Also would like to finally hook up the air cleaner but I'm convinced I have the A7 rubber, purchased decades ago, and need to source a genuine A10 version. Plus my taps are not great and I'd love to find some to original spec, which on this tank I think should be 3/8 pipe into the tank and 1/4 pipe outlets to attach the armored fuel line I have also never used but have to hand.

Anyway, I would have sworn I was a member here ages ago, long inactive, but that may have been somewhere else. I certainly was someone else!

This is the machine in question:
https://www.bsagoldenflash.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2025-10-22-15.50.53.jpg

RYC 445 is its original English reg number--sold new in Somerset, where I'm reasonably certain it was put to use as a sidecar hack.

mod edit: picture added as attachment (external picture hosting not allowed on the forum, see https://www.a7a10.net/forum/index.php?topic=2545.0).


1954 BSA A10 Golden Flash (plunger, restored)
1970 Triumph Bonneville T120R (project)
2006 Triumph Sprint ST 1050 ABS (ridden far & wide)
2006 Buell Ulysses XB12X (my "old man" bike)

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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #1 on: 22.05. 2026 09:54 »
I should note with the timing correctly set, it starts easily, at least in the limited use it has so far seen since that exercise. Wish I was smarter, but what can you do?
1954 BSA A10 Golden Flash (plunger, restored)
1970 Triumph Bonneville T120R (project)
2006 Triumph Sprint ST 1050 ABS (ridden far & wide)
2006 Buell Ulysses XB12X (my "old man" bike)

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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #2 on: 24.05. 2026 19:44 »
Thanks for a great post. and great looking bike (...what mine should have been looking like if I did not leave it alone for way too long!).

And a fine website you got. Same idea I got long ago, a bike story site. Then after receiving so many emails with bike questions, understood there was more A7/10 people and bigger interest than I thought, so somehow managed to get a forum setup working, which over the years turned into this very extensive 'A encyclopedia'. And not the least, a place of contact and friendship for all those good people from all over the world.


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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #3 on: 24.05. 2026 22:11 »
G'day Rusty  *welcome*
Beautiful bike mate. Now you've got the timing sorted the riding will be much more pleasurable.
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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #4 on: 25.05. 2026 16:26 »
welcome and nice lookig bike  ....I dont know what tank liner you use but I have had the best results with Casswell seems to hold up well but Prep and temps for curing need to be followed

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« Reply #5 on: 27.05. 2026 08:48 »
Thanks for the welcome.

First liner, back in the 1990s, was a Kreem product, I think. It gave up by about 2007 and me being me I finally got around to redoing it in about 2011 when I used whatever Eastwood was selling back then. Might have been the POR15 product they sell now, might have been under their own label. It was better than the Kreem but eventually gave up the ghost.

A couple years ago I cleaned it out again and opted for no liner. That worked about as well as you might expect and it's already needing attention again. Maybe putting more than a tank of fuel through it per year might help!

I helped a friend use the Caswell system on his 90s Triumph and it didn't go too well. I'm leaning towards using the KBS product this time for no reason other than one of these has to work ok, maybe it's that one. I'm convinced the key step is getting the tank to bare steel, no ifs ands or buts.

I have a rude-n-crude rotisserie I made for the last cleanout, and that helped a lot, but two things I note looking at the tank more closely today: there is still some evidence of the previous liner in places, which is a no-go (Caswell makes the claim that's OK and I don't believe it!), and I used steel shot as the tumbling agent for dislodging rust that go-round and I think sharper media (like the traditional handful of fasteners) would probably be more effective.

We'll see.
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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #6 on: 27.05. 2026 11:02 »
G'day Rusty.
KBS is good, I've done a few with it. Kreem gets eaten by ethanol/methanol/metho.
I use nuts/bolts/screws and acetone in the tank. Wrap it in bubble wrap and a blanket and put it in a cement mixer. Turn it over every half hour.
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« Reply #7 on: 27.05. 2026 12:09 »
Attached is the "rotisserie" I use for knocking the rust out of the tank (should be useful for spreading the lining as well, hopefully).

This was from my last adventure a few years back. I used door shims to secure it side-to-side, not sure why...I have it set back up and just packed out the tank mounting bolts with thick washers and it works as well or better. You can see I have spent considerable time and effort making it...actually, it's just a piece of closet hanger rod in a "2-by-4" frame. I have added some "L" brackets to the uprights since.

I adjust its position in the workmate to change the angle of the tank. I didn't bother putting a handle on it, I waxed the round timber and it rotates freely just by grabbing the free ends.

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Re: New here...maybe
« Reply #8 on: 28.05. 2026 00:48 »
And the dog is thinking "that's a funny looking butt of beef"
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« Reply #9 on: 28.05. 2026 08:16 »
There's a product sold here in 'Stralia called Red-Kote. It's sold as a dry powder which is mixed with acetone when applying.
Remains flexible and adheres well without being affected by ethanol.

The good thing is acetone is a solvent for it so unlike some liners there is no problem to remove it down the track.
I've not used it personally but I know a guy who has had exceptional results with it and his old sloper tank was I would have said a complete write off. Scabby as all hell inside and out, rust pin holes right through, cracked etc.

Full details here:
https://bmhstore.bmh.com.au/tank-sealer-c-77_183/redkote-dry-fuel-tank-sealer-p-4589
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