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new member has a spring Question
« on: 10.05. 2012 21:24 »
Hello everyone , my names Paul i live in lincoln and have 1954 A10 plunger in nice condition. I do have one question to ask , whats the best way to replace a centre stand spring . I have bought a new one ready to fit .

Thanks for any help.

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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #1 on: 10.05. 2012 21:49 »
G'day Paul,
                      I get a box of flat washers and insert between the coils until the spring is long enough to fit.
Bend the spring to insert and alternate from side to side.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #2 on: 10.05. 2012 22:00 »
Hi Trev ,
              thanks for that i will give it a try.

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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #3 on: 10.05. 2012 22:25 »
What a good idea.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #4 on: 11.05. 2012 06:52 »
Wish I'd thought of that yesterday when I did my A65.
Thanks Trev.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #5 on: 11.05. 2012 07:53 »
I tried that with a spring from c and d and it did not work -too hard to get coins in and not extended enough and coins in the way of getting it on anyway -  so do not be too disappointed if it doesn't work...Spring was very tough !

In the end I made a simple stretcher device using 10mm studding I'll post a pic if you need me to.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #6 on: 11.05. 2012 10:00 »
Good morning Paul, I also tried the washer idea with no luck ,perhaps I just didn't have enough patience, resorted to brute force ,thin nylon rope through the spring  near the end and with a friend holding bike pulled it back ,it still makes shiver to think where the spring would have gone had it slipped ,not one of my better ideas but it worked ,good luck, BobH.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #7 on: 11.05. 2012 10:38 »
Yep, I ended up using a dentists hook and a lot of swearing. The only good part of that job is the beer at the end.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #8 on: 11.05. 2012 11:18 »
lot's and lot's of beer ,mithinks, cheers BobH
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #9 on: 11.05. 2012 12:03 »
I've always found it easier to remove the mounting pin (or bolts).

Let the stand hang on the spring and then replace the mounting pin (or bolts) against the pressure of the spring.

It might seem to be more work but it's easier in the long run and less frustrating for me.

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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #10 on: 11.05. 2012 17:33 »
"Trevinoz" ...I think that suggestion is pure genius !!
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #11 on: 11.05. 2012 23:00 »
Hi All,
Another method is to tie the end of the spring to the rear wheel and roll the bike forwards to stretch the spring *idea*
Not so easy on the A10 with the spring on the outside but can be done, perfect fo commandos and Ariel twins *smile*

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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #12 on: 11.05. 2012 23:36 »
It can be a bit of a pain with washers wanting to drop out as the number inserted increases but I always do it this way, saves a lot of bad language being used!
         
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #13 on: 12.05. 2012 00:39 »
 Bad language, injuries, working on motorbikes (any breed), goes hand in hand. My neighbors are used to it.
Will try it next time.
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Re: new member has a spring Question
« Reply #14 on: 13.05. 2012 00:44 »
I've also had mine hangin' in there like a lost a lost appendage, in the too hard basket for want of a 'good' idea. Tried trevs' washers but only have thin ones on hand last few days and agree with a few comments, it stretched a bit but no amount of encouragement made it stretch enough.

No such thing as 'Bad Language' except for people who can't spell -*fight*, probably best use 'creative use of modern expletives', with which I'm well rehearsed.

I'm trying a method using a bit of chain, will get back on that, have to wait for the neighbours to go out first(see previous sentence)

UPDATE..... I just put the spring in after a couple of minutes preparation, using a Bow shackle, a short length of chain and a 'ball joint separator'(b.j.s.)-any suitable shackle, chain or lever would do.

The shackle bow goes over and above the 'eye' at the bottom of the spring with enough links to form a loop through which to pass the lever(b.j.s.) , and to use the stand crossover as a fulcrum and push down on back end of lever, spring just slides on.
  I took a couple of pics but maybe not enough and on a dry run it just 'fell into place', piece of cake wink2 so maybe can take more if need be.
Note the washers in place -legacy of Trevs idea.
Deserve a *beer* but did that before the job ,now need a nap before work in 6hrs
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