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1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« on: 16.08. 2010 22:54 »
Here's one for the experts.
Is a 1962 "Rocket Scrambler" the same as a 1962 Spitfire Scrambler?  BSAOC tells me my frame is a Rocket Scrambler.
Thanks, Chris.
1953 Star Twin - Racing
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1958 Super Rocket
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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #1 on: 16.08. 2010 23:05 »
Hi Chris

Sorry do not know the answer, but which frame do have? standard  A7 type cable back brake with full width hub front and back.

Or rod back brake with single side front hub (Rocket Gold Star).

Look forward to other replys.

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Nick
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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #2 on: 16.08. 2010 23:10 »
Hi Nick,
It's just a bare frame that is nearly identical to my 1959 Spitfire Scrambler. It should have a cable operated brake, as it has the tab for the cable, and the holes are wide for the splined shaft.
1953 Star Twin - Racing
1956 Road Rocket
1958 Super Rocket
1959 Spitfire Scrambler
1967 Hornet

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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #3 on: 16.08. 2010 23:31 »
Hi Chris
Me again, information from BSA Twin Restoration - Roy Bacon page 203

1958 A10 Rocket Scrambler start.

1960 A10 Rocket Scrambler becomes A10 Spitfire - Frame No: GA7A - 101 onwards, a standard frame will be GA7 full width hubs.

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Nick
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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #4 on: 16.08. 2010 23:58 »
Hi Nick,
It's handy that we all have the same books!  The page number made that an easy find.  In Bacon's BSA Twins & Triples book, pages 189 and 190, he lists the models and serial number ranges, and names all of the A10 Scramblers from 1959 onwards 'Spitfire Scramblers.'  Also it was in the despatch records that my 1962 frame is a "Rocket Scrambler."  Is there a definitive answer?  The US East Coast catalogue for 1960 shows a Spitfire Scrambler.  I don't have an earlier one.
1953 Star Twin - Racing
1956 Road Rocket
1958 Super Rocket
1959 Spitfire Scrambler
1967 Hornet

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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #5 on: 17.08. 2010 08:34 »
http://bsa.hailwood.com/goldstarspitfirescrambler.html
have you seen this web page it maybe of some help,i'm intending on building a spitfire to,but the rocket scrambler is a real rare one.
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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #6 on: 17.08. 2010 14:43 »
That is a very cool web page, which I have visited many times with longing!  The Rocket Goldstar Spitfire Scrambler is a very special machine and I think quite different from mine.  There is no tab for the brake cable, I assume the same goldstar style swinging arm, and other details.  The A10 frame number prefix is special too. Now I just need an engine to bolt into this sucker!
1953 Star Twin - Racing
1956 Road Rocket
1958 Super Rocket
1959 Spitfire Scrambler
1967 Hornet

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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #7 on: 21.08. 2010 19:15 »
The following nomenclature is taken from US catalogs and the factory Spitfire and RGS Despatch Records in my possession.
     Name                         USA Catalogs                 Despatch Years
Spitfire Scrambler            1957 through 1960           1957
A10 Rocket Scrambler                                          !957 through 1961, plus one in 1963 (in the RGS Record)
A10                                                                   scattered throughout
A10 RS                                                              ditto
A10SR                                                               ditto
A10 RRS                                                            ditto
A10 SSR                                                            ditto
A10 RS USA Spec                                               ?RGS Nomenclature1959-1962
A10 RS Spec                                                      1960
A10 RS USA                                                       1960
A10 SR Blk                                                         1961
A10 USA Spec Red                                              1961, 62
A10 RS Flam Red                                                1962
Rocket Gold Star                  1962                        1962
A10 Rocket Gold Star                                           1962
A10 Rocket Gold Star Special                                1963
Rocket Gold Star Scrambler                                  1962
Gold Star Spitfire Scrambler  1962, 63
Gold Star Twin                     1962, 63
Gold Star Spitfire                 1962

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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #8 on: 24.08. 2010 05:10 »
What an interesting list!  So, I am in possession of a '62 Rocket Scrambler in Flamboyant Red.  What are the specifications of this machine?  I assume it has the big valve DA10R HHC engine, but are the cycle bits different than any other spitfire scrambler or is it just painted red?

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1956 Road Rocket
1958 Super Rocket
1959 Spitfire Scrambler
1967 Hornet

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Re: 1962 Rocket Scrambler???
« Reply #9 on: 26.08. 2010 19:12 »
Bear in mind a couple of things:
    - Bacon's info is incomplete and shaky re the preunit Spitfires, especially
prior to 1959 models. This is because there was simply no good info published
anywhere except in the USA at that time, and Bacon had precious little to go on;
    - The Despatch Record as was available after the Factory's demise is very
poorly written, literally. It's hard to imagine some of the crude, scribbled
entries as having been made by a manufacturer as prestigious as BSA. The writers
thereof seem to have coined their own choices of names if they weren't otherwise
told which ones to use.
    -  Absent any other, more-accurate and official record, this is what we have
to use.
David
David
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