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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #30 on: 13.08. 2019 11:54 »
o well I am colour blind--- can't wait to try out those new specs that have come on the market, someone pointed out to me my seat , tank and yokes were different colours - I can just about see that now *countdown*

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #31 on: 13.08. 2019 20:27 »
Even the black isn't straightforward. I got in touch with a specialist paint supplier, who told me that the correct colour for a 53 A10 was 94 parts black and 6 parts violet. He also thought that rather than have this mixed up at over £10 a can I should go for plain gloss black at approx £16 for 6 cans. As I am trying to produce a good runner not concourse, I've gone for plain black. It looks good to my untrained eye on toolbox, oil tank, tank and fork shrouds - didn't need to do the mudguards I thought.
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #32 on: 14.08. 2019 09:19 »
o well I am colour blind--- can't wait to try out those new specs that have come on the market, someone pointed out to me my seat , tank and yokes were different colours - I can just about see that now *countdown*

Which must mean your bike is either original or an authentic perfect restoration and not oan over restoration to a degree higher than was done at the factory
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #33 on: 14.08. 2019 09:39 »
In the 1970's I bought an ex demo Ford Capri. The driver's side rear quarter had been refinished, so was a slightly different colour match. Then the driver's door got bumped, and it went to Guest Motors in West Bromwich, the Ford Main Dealers. Back it came with the door in another slightly different shade. So the one side had three different variants of the same colour. They were reluctant to spray the whole side so all three panels were the same, so I just lived with it. Shows how difficult it was in those days to get a consistent match. It was an early unpopular metallic green, so the car had been cheap to start with, and as in those days it was primer and colour, no lacquer coats, the finish started to fail after a couple of years and I sold it on. Worth a bit more now, if it had survived.

Just wondered if bergs bike is different colours...red tank, blue toolbox, green oiltank, yellow guards, or just different shades of the same colour......he did say he was colour blind, but that may be just the drink!

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #34 on: 14.08. 2019 10:16 »
According to BSA Twin Restoration book by Roy Bacon:-

A10: 1950 – 51
All parts painted black . . . OR polychromatic silver beige.
Petrol tank chrome plated with black panel lined gold . . . OR beige panel lined red.
Wheel rims chrome plated with black centres lined gold . . . OR beige centres lined red.
   
A10: 1951-52
As 1950 except petrol tank all beige with panel outlined and painted brake plates.

(Pic. from BSA Pre-Unit Twins book by Mick Walker)

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #35 on: 14.08. 2019 10:33 »

 
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o well I am colour blind--- can't wait to try out those new specs that have come on the market, someone pointed out to me my seat , tank and yokes were different colours - I can just about see that now *countdown*

 Don't touch the specs/red button/Brownacid...ignorance is bliss *beer* *beer*
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #36 on: 14.08. 2019 10:55 »
Some more reference pics of a 1950 GF.

A lot of lining for someone to do Steverat  *eek*.

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #37 on: 14.08. 2019 12:07 »
Deffo beige, not metallic at all.

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #38 on: 14.08. 2019 12:24 »
mmmm on looking at these I think someone else is colour blind ,I think the tank and seat are the same and the yokes are a bit orange, maybe my blindness of colour is getting better or I just forget about it and go and get blindo in the pub *beer* *beer* - red tank and seat , orangey yokes . I hope nobody brings beige [ WHAT?!] into it *pull hair out* I had arguments for years about red and beige-- to me its RED . edit I really need the pub , not functioning at all well---- beige I don't even recognise it as a colour but I should have said burgundy!!!! as red .

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #39 on: 14.08. 2019 12:29 »
orange ??????

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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #40 on: 14.08. 2019 12:30 »
 
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......,I think the tank and seat are the same and the yokes are a bit orange,.....

 
I think I never saw a green Beeza engine before *conf2*
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #41 on: 14.08. 2019 14:59 »
Deep pink.  *eek*
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #42 on: 14.08. 2019 17:06 »
I'm very happy with the colour of my Golden Flash restoration...
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #43 on: 15.08. 2019 09:57 »
Some more reference pics of a 1950 GF.

A lot of lining for someone to do Steverat  *eek*.

But is it an ORIGINAL 1950 golden flash or a 1950 Golden Flash that has been repainted 25 times ?
Having seen an original one before it got repainted ( which was  crime ) the finish was deep with a greenish tinge which made it look metallic because the black undercoat shows through the top coat .
I have also seen a 54 flash ( mine ) which was a one owner bike before I got it.
Again the tank & forks were beige over black & looked stunning ( between the stone chips & rust ) the oil tank & guards had a cream undercoat and looks a totally different colour.
From memory professional painter call it base coat bleed  through.
I am fairly sure the West Coast USA bikes all had black frames from the get go having met an original owner who swears his bike had a black frame, not sure about the East Coast.
And of course I did post the 58 catalogues.
We might also take a moment to reflect upon the fact that we are talking about a 1958 bike, not a 1950 bike .
Then there are sources.
What BSA published is a primary source and should be correct ( some times )
What newspapers & magazines OF THE PERIOD published would be considered secondary unless they were describing the bike they were given to test ride, which might or might not be an accurate example of what the factory actually made.
After that everything is tertiary and highly suspect unless it is foot noted with a refference back to the original material.
Lots of books are very very much wrong & Bacon is the perfect example .
I have some of the material that he reprinted and it is not what he said it was and of course iis limited to UK models and UK models alone because it was derrived form UK press releases about UK HOME MARKET bikes and the bike in question is GERMAN which could very well be in GENERAL EXPORT TRIM , not UK 1950 trim.

And of course a digital camera does not record TRUE COLOURS and on top of that computer screens all render colour differently so trying to determine the actual colour of anything off a computer image is a fools errand.
There is a reason why printers have $ 5000 computer screens and calibrate them almost daily if not more often.
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Re: Colour scheme question
« Reply #44 on: 15.08. 2019 10:25 »
Here is a final picture  of Josef's bike just before it left for Germany in March. 
I hope you like it, apologies for not showing before.
Many thanks for your help.
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