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[RichardL]

Pedro,

I know you've about worn your fingers to the bone taking the cover off and putting it back on, but, from your video, you still have some hair to pull out, so I have another hair-brained idea. How about removing  the primary chain and doing some kicking with the clutch engaged (lever not pulled)? Or does this not tell anything because of easier kicking with the plugs out? Hmmm? At the same time you could spin the engine via the cush nut to see if that reveals any problem.

OK, if none of that makes sense, have you had the sump plate off recently to look for something there? Did we already talk about primary screws hitting the crank?

Hey, I know a lot of this will be stuff you already know very well, as you know your bike inside and out by now. I think the thing we are trying to do now is stumble on some very little thing that somehow gets forgotten in the excitement (frustration).  As far as my suggestions go, no offense here if you put them con imposibilidades.

Richard L.

[pedrochapala]

when i started with this nonsense,i thought i would do an oil change too. so the sump plate was off and i tried kicking. same damn thing-take the plugs out and kicks fine-plugs in -nadda.
i'm gonna meet my mates today so will start messing on monday again. what i am gonna do is check the quad teeth again closely as to how they mesh with the main shaft. what i am thinking is to grind the quad teeth down slightly.

[beezermacc]

This may sound a little 'left field' but is the problem clutch slip? I had a similar situation where the bike felt as though it was tightening up as I was kicking it but what was happening was, because the clutch was slipping, the bike wouldn't kick past compression. It felt like the kickstart was hitting glue. Make sure you have free play at the lever. If that is OK take the primary cover off and tighten the clutch spring screws, maybe one turn or a turn and a half each. To see if the clutch is slipping you can mark the chainwheel and pressure plate with chalk marks and see if they have moved relative to each other after a couple of kicks. Anyway, as I said, a bit left field, but it wouldn't surprise me to find this is the problem.

[RichardL]

That's a new idea. Wouldn't it be great if Beezermacc has hit it?

[pedrochapala]

yes it would BUT if the clutch were slipping i certainly would feel it when riding especially up a grade and i can tell you that it's not doing that. my cable is set the way it should be too. by the way when i did the rebuild it require the clutch be taken apart , inspected and springs readjusted on assembly. i do them so that it requires some hand strength. keep the ideas coming por favor!

[pedrochapala]

what a super forum and a great bunch! thanks to all and my friend neil[member of my club los ocultos] and carl from southwest cycle for having the patience to help me. i wanted to wait a few days and several kicks before i reported. it works!!!! what i did was put back the old brass bush under the bendix on the main shaft. the old one was not as sloppy on the outside. then as a few suggested i took off the primary cover  to inspect the clutch. you guys were right and i was wrong. look at the pic. the brass spring holder on the right is nice and shiny because it was completely off and rubbing against the cover. when i put the clutch back together before i was too concerned about the plates moving unevenly and obviously that one was too loose. this time i tightened them all a lot more and eveness be damned.  but it still is pretty even,in any event.

[beezermacc]

then as a few suggested i took off the primary cover  to inspect the clutch. you guys were right and i was wrong.

Sorry to gloat but which guy(s) were right??!!

Delighted you got it fixed!

[muskrat]

I think your it with the clutch beezermacc and I got the pinion bush.
Great to hear Pedro, puzzle sorted.
Cheers

[kiwipom]

hi guys, have followed this post with interest so a big well done to all involved to get Pedro going again, `challenge met` cheers

[RichardL]

Pedro,

Great! Very glad that got worked out. You can get back to riding con los hermanos de las motocicletas. Hey, I didn't have the right diagnosis, but I did say to take off the primary cover. What a loser I am. Below is a picture of me when I used to be cool.

Richard L.

[duTch]

 Well, unlike Richardo, I never had an urge to be cool, quite to the contrary- but have to coin a phrase and say " I love it when a plan comes together"....
  I've not had a solution to the problem, but have had a (clutch spring) screw loose in the past , but not enough to cause this kind of issue, and something I've been meaning to address, but in my case, due to adding the five friction plates as listed, which doesn't allow much thread contact so they undo easily....but since I put in (4) NEW friction plates, so far haven't had the same problem...but have also found that being mega-precise with the run-out doesn't seem to matter afarque;(too much) - I tried the dial gauge, but now just do it by eye and works fine

     /sangria.??

[Greybeard]

Below is a picture of me when I used to be cool.

Was that when you were a youngster? 

[pedrochapala]

that ain't richard being cool-it's me.
and as they say in texas-all y'all can take credit because ya made me think. gracias y todos!

[RichardL]

That's quite a bunch of guys. I'm thinking the club might include a lawyer, an accountant, an insurance salesman, a real estate agent, a couple of mechanics, a cop and...

Curious to know if I've got any of these correct.

Richard L.

[edboy]

in my experience people generally who can ride legally and fix their bikes do not fit the losers category. an exception being anybody who sold their bsa years ago on a whim and waiting for an opportunity to buy yours at his 30-40 year old selling price.